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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with gene and

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Chris back on the para cast our guest

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this week is researchers Stan Gordon

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tells us that there was plenty of

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activity in various kinds cryptid

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encounters UFOs etc Bigfoot in

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Pennsylvania we'll get back right now

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chris is preparing to make a

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cross-country move or you're crazy

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enough to make a cross-country he's kind

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of going through some health issues need

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some help and asked me if I would mind

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coming up and helping out for a while

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you know I was kind of in between moves

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anyway so the chance to get a little bit

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you know kind of a new environment

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little fresher perspective avoid the

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just withering heat that I had done to

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undergo last year so I'm gonna be out

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there temporarily helping out on some

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projects and other things but I'm gonna

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be kind of out in the neck of the woods

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there were our today's guest Stan Gordon

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of course is down in southwestern

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Pennsylvania and I will be up in North

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Central just over the border in New York

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but where I'm gonna be staying I look

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down over the border into Pennsylvania

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so anything that happens up there Stan

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welcome back to the show anything that

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happens up there

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I'll be your your johnny-on-the-spot

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yeah I get reports from all over the

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state believe it or not that this year

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marks 59 years of research I've been

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doing I have my own personal UFO a

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Bigfoot encounter but over the years I

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know there been there were a lot of the

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incidents up in that general area up and

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uh things around

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what homes down

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remember up scranton/wilkes-barre Sayer

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of course you know about that famous

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case I the giant skeletons were

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supposedly found up there and Wanda so

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over the years I know that in fact have

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been a lot of reports and also not that

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far away on the other side of the border

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going over towards Erie and McKean

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County and Warren County and then up

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around taya neste which now takes you up

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that Allegheny National Forest that area

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has been hot for years with Bigfoot

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activity we had a Thunderbird incident

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up there last year

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a lot of UFO reports that I was up to

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giving a lecture to one of the Bigfoot

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conference's last year and a lot of

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people came up to me and shared their

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personal encounters with Bigfoot there's

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just a lot of history of weird phenomena

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up in that area as well well well I'm

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looking forward to getting back up there

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and experiencing a little bit cooler

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weather in the summer yeah what is the

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weather and like now a Chris where

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you're going well I'm gonna be arriving

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it's gonna be a high of 25 a little 14

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so they're going into a little bit more

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of the freezer the polar ice box kind of

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scenario but you know up here

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time of year it's pretty nice around

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here but a little bit more frigid back

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back in New York State well I made kind

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of the reverse trip 24 years ago from

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New Jersey where it was snowing going

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all the way to Arizona so I don't know

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that I want to go back Stan if we're

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gonna look at the area that Chris is

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moving to what do you think is the most

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significant case there I have to go back

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to my files because there been lots of

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cases I would tell you probably just the

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top of my head I believe that's up

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around Carbondale is that the January

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where you're going Christie you know

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famous UFO incident that still is just

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like with Kecksburg there's still a lot

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of curiosity and a lot of skepticism and

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a lot of theories on that is it happened

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I believe was 1970

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or if I recall in Carbondale

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Pennsylvania where apparently a number

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of people saw the fiery object fall from

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the sky allegedly into a small lake then

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there was all kind of stories that came

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that was making national news for days

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and local news and then I got the

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interesting because as I recall there

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were later some people claimed there was

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some some military later involved it's a

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long story I have to go back and read

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the details I was only indirectly

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involved in it back then but there were

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other local investigators and did a lot

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of research on it and there's some even

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in recent years are continuing to

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investigate the case and they believe

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there's a lot more to the story then a

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lot of people know about so it's an

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interesting case and maybe you have time

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to look into it when you get in that

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area yeah yeah it's a good idea if I'm

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friend of mine is a geologist and artist

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he makes a beautiful reproduction atlatl

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he's involved with the the susquehanna

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of the Historical Society there and I

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know he's mentioned some pretty

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interesting archaeological finds copper

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seemed to recall him talking about the

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the giant the mound giants that they

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found he'd be a good person to bounce

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that that whole scenario off of of

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course it's an area that's pretty well

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known for a lot of woodland culture

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mounds they're in fact the property

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where I'm moving to is 105 acres on the

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highest mountain in Sherman County

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well they call them mountains out there

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here it would be a small Foothill how

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last there but he has an Indian Mound on

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his property and they they just you know

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looking at the part that's kind of

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tumbled down the hill a little bit they

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they kind of started on stacking some

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stones and they found some trade good

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items and some pipes actually some molds

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of 1600 pipes from the mid to late 1600s

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stuff in there and the whole area is

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just filled with all kinds of historical

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significance because of its

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proximity to the Susquehanna River which

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is an important waterway of course back

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in the colonial days and then into

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prehistory to where the Indians were

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fishing and hunting and migrating up and

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down that river so I've been to the area

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many times over the years and I'm

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looking forward to good sand tramping

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around out there and getting down from

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altitude

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I've been up above four or five thousand

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feet now for 25 years almost so be good

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get down close to the sea level there

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has indeed been a lot of activity in a

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general area where you're moving into

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reports from other states as well and

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but I know just from memory especially

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the 70s 80s I was getting a lot of

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there and it was a very interesting

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probably one of the best mass UFO

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sightings back years ago not too far

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from there that's over in Lycoming

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Williamsport Pennsylvania yeah there was

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a very very involved investigation I

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witnesses there were other investigators

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a year that was involved in it this was

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a massive sighting I'm trying to

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remember the year I know wasn't a 70 I

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off Florida bills around or something

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and there was multitudes of witnesses

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that observed as very worn solid very

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low-level huge boomerang triangle

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objects may have been more than one

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involved because it was reported right

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over populated parts of that town of

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Williamsport many many people saw it I

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mean now you know historically a lot of

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UFOs are completely silent but the ones

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that make noise historically made a

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tremendous amount of noise and some was

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like a loud whooshing sound or a humming

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but in some cases they make a terrific

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sound in this case it was like a train

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coming down the street but there's no

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train around and we're shaking and

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vibrating the windows in the area the

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animals are going crazy people are

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running outside to see what it was and

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this thing it was only 150 250 feet off

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eyewitnesses who saw it there and in

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some of the nearby counties later that

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day and it was making a quite a bit of

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local news for several days and there

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was a big investigation I remember I I

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did FOIA requests whatever with the FAA

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a very interesting detailed case and one

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that nobody ever came up with a solution

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for hey guys I'm gonna break here and

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we'll go back to covering these cases

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from Pennsylvania and New York State we

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have Stan Gorton with gene and Chris

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podcast.com Stan Gordon UFO researcher

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from Pennsylvania where to get into some

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of the new stuff that happen in 2017 in

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his area but right now in light of the

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fact that Kris is moving to the wilds of

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or whatever it is India upstate New York

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on top of a mountain or something you

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were telling me yeah it's Chemung County

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is right there

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north of Saren in Athens Pennsylvania

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and then just two miles away is Waverly

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which is right over the border and then

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if you go a little bit north of there

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about three miles I'm on the highest

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hill on the county there 105 acres and I

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can look right down into Pennsylvania

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and then back up towards the Finger

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Lakes regions how high is this mountain

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well is mountains go for the back east

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it's pretty high I think I'm up around

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3,000 feet 2800 but I mean that's half

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the altitude I'm at right now and I'm in

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a valley so oh boy well better you than

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me I'm that a mountain kind of person I

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like flat

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yeah how much rather be in mountainous

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terrain easy for you to say yeah that's

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it's returned here to the case histories

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Stan I want to look at 2017 in relation

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to the past year and of course there's a

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perception on the part of some people

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that the number of UFO cases has gone

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down in recent years at least the ones

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that have more than basic images of

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lights in the sky what's really

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happening out there are UFO sightings on

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the decrease are significant sightings

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on the decrease the same level or more

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well I would say I receive reports every

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year all year round on all type of

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weather conditions and yes you know

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high-percentage societies we can explain

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or misidentifications we've talked about

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many times they're bright stars or

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lights on aircrafts and meteors and

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drones now and Chinese lanterns so a lot

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of things you can track down but we have

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significant reports every year what I

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have seen in the last several years so

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going back to at least top of my head

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maybe 2013 I'm seeing an increase in

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what I call the classic UFO reports

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these are not lights in the sky but

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these are large structured craft low to

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the ground these are the kind of cases

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used to hear about and in the 50s and

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the 60s quite a bit but then over the

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years you know you're about I'm down

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much around the country but I was seeing

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an increase in some of these kind of

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cases and just going back just just to

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give me an example one that stands out

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in my head is instant happened June

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believe was June 1st of 2013 this was

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about 20-some miles east of Pittsburgh

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around early that evening around 10

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o'clock and evening as I recall on a

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four-lane highway at North Huntington

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Township Pennsylvania and this witness

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was a woman who did not believe in UFOs

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and her three year old child to riding

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down Route 30 eastbound she's on her

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cell phone talking to somebody when all

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of a sudden she has to stop right in the

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middle of a four-lane highway

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and she said to me said I could not

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believe I'm the only car in the area

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those cars way ahead of me there's cars

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way behind me I had to stop because

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here's this huge metallic acorn shaped

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object just hovering over the road this

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was short distance away that was about

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60 feet away and this thing is taken up

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all four lanes of the highway and she

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said it was kind of a big metallic

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rectangular object it was like a gondola

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on a blimp but without the blimp and

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then it has a very unusual lighting on

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it I had windows on it and her little

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thrilled

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three-year-old child yells mommy flying

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iPad in the sky and the woman had to

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pass underneath it to get to her home so

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as she is going underneath this thing

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she passed underneath it it's completely

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silent she was her cell phone signal as

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she passes underneath it all the digital

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displays on her car on the dashboard go

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out the quad the temperature indicator

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the airbag status indicator the radio

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she was listening to went off the air

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the Bluetooth sync suddenly blacked out

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and she lost her cell phone signal as I

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mentioned she tried to take a picture of

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it with her iPhone so it would not go

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into the camera mode to let her take a

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picture unless she went down the road

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half a mile away all the electronics

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came back on and she regained her signal

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I interviewed her numerous times I went

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down the interviewer and checked the car

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out and she said that the car which is

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relatively new at that time had never

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performed properly since that night and

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now that was one of numerous other cases

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we can talk about that happen but we're

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seeing more and more reports in recent

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years of these large structured craft

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and when I'm getting besides your

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typical cylindrical objects the big

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cigar shaped objects the big triangular

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objects are continue to be reported

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we're getting a lot more reports out of

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these large solid rectangular objects

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summer solid black scene and daylight

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hovering over trees I've had reports of

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them very low over highways in certain

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areas so that's the kind of reports

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we're getting and

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we can also talk about the many UFOs

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that I've been getting reports on again

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recently and I've been Vesta gating for

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many many years you know let's go to the

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many UFOs okay so is this being that

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we're gonna see the little people these

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are very little we're talking a few

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inches to about a foot or so in diameter

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I started investigating these reports

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back 1960s what I found over the years

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was very very interesting is that these

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objects whatever they might be come very

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close to witnesses we're talking inches

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2 feet away and in some cases actually

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entered people's homes and cars through

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open windows that gently floated back

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out or went right through the walls of

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homes for example I had one case up near

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State College a few years ago so Chris

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that's not really that far but we're

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gonna be moving and that's more that

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general area this was a beautiful

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afternoon and fell had a nice big new

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truck he was riding down a road pretty

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good rate of speed and he notices this

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little seer I believe he's about the

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size of a softball chasing the car at

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the passenger side window but the window

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is down and this little spherical object

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enters the cab of his brother's truck

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floats all around floats upward along

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his body floats along his leg and

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finally it just goes right on through

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the bed of the truck and disappears so

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those reports are intriguing up towards

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Punxsutawney where Punxsutawney Phil

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lives here's the guy remember

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interviewing a woman that told me she

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was in her kitchen and one of these

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little spheres flies in the in through

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the window and it's floating around in

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there and what is her reaction she grabs

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her broom starts striking it and she

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says when she hit it splitting the two

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identical little spheres they wrote her

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around the house went back out the

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window and we're going and those are

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very interesting but some of the reports

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I had even recently are pretty

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fascinating one in particular this

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happened up in Ligonier now this is very

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close to the Chestnut Ridge and that

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Chestnut Ridge is that hundred mile long

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mountain range that runs from Preston

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County West Virginia

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Westbourne fed in Indiana County it

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continues to be probably one of the

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hardest areas on country year after year

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for ongoing phenomena so going back many

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many years we have many UFO reports lots

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and lots of close range Bigfoot

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encounters we have encountered other

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cryptids such as the giant Birds or

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Thunderbirds and Black Panthers and

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other weird entities and mystery booms

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which by the way we've had in recent

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weeks Sam will talk about the mystery

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booms in our next segment with Jean and

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631
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635
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636
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637
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this show because it'll be broadcast the

638
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weekend of the 11th of February we have

639
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Stan Gordon Pennsylvania UFO researcher

640
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:33,120
talking about a lot of activity in

641
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:36,730
Pennsylvania cryptids Bigfoot UFOs and

642
00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:39,790
we're talking about the many UFOs the

643
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,420
little people the tiny ones now what I'm

644
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:45,520
thinking here is is it possible there's

645
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,650
a race of people out there that just

646
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happen to be real small or are we seeing

647
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:53,290
just something that might be an illusion

648
00:27:57,150 --> 00:27:55,990
of something one of the theories for

649
00:28:00,990 --> 00:27:57,160
years about these are some type of

650
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:01,000
probes that are gathering data they come

651
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:02,440
close to human activity

652
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:05,290
I remember our case um several years ago

653
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,690
there were several people in a parking

654
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:09,520
lot that the mall just closed you're in

655
00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:11,680
Westmoreland County and they were

656
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:12,820
standing there wasn't one of these

657
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:15,670
little spheres comes floating by them

658
00:28:20,850 --> 00:28:18,460
going against the wind and one of the

659
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:20,860
persons there was a who had been in the

660
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:23,380
military he said this thing floated so

661
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:25,390
close he can easily reach out grab this

662
00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:27,340
thing but he wasn't about to do it he

663
00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:28,540
said this thing appeared to be

664
00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:30,760
constructed appeared to be intelligent

665
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:32,800
it was moving steadily against a wind

666
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:35,110
made no sound but he wasn't about to

667
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:37,090
grab it because he'd know what it was so

668
00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:38,950
that's been one of the theories what had

669
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:41,800
happened very recently September 20th

670
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:43,930
not far from the chestnut regicide a

671
00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:46,090
Ligonier where we're continuing to get

672
00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:48,220
all kind of weird reports and cryptids

673
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:50,860
and ufos and weird things and this

674
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:52,930
occurred in the early morning of

675
00:28:58,050 --> 00:28:55,660
September 20th and a woman was sleeping

676
00:29:00,360 --> 00:28:58,060
with something woke her and she saw this

677
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:00,370
light shining in the bedroom window but

678
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:01,810
she realized that there's no outside

679
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:03,820
lights around there so she got up and

680
00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:06,070
she went to the window like she said

681
00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:09,100
suspended in the air about 6 or 7 feet

682
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:10,870
from the window and about 8 to 9 feet

683
00:29:15,399 --> 00:29:11,929
off the ground

684
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,409
is his very tiny silver dollar size

685
00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:18,080
diameter object that was kind of an odd

686
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color kind of a yellowish pale green

687
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:21,919
color and the light was steady but it

688
00:29:26,859 --> 00:29:24,440
was not your robe right and it didn't

689
00:29:29,139 --> 00:29:26,869
reflect any type of light around the

690
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surrounding and it was not completely

691
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around kind of more squashed like an egg

692
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:33,769
shape it hovered there and it was gone

693
00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:36,470
that one was interesting but then we had

694
00:29:40,869 --> 00:29:38,119
one and occurred down in Fayette County

695
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:40,879
and Fayette County is one of those areas

696
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along the Chestnut Ridge so in southwest

697
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PA does Westmoreland Fayette and Indiana

698
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County hotbed free ports every year

699
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October 25th

700
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early morning about 6:45 in the morning

701
00:29:58,810 --> 00:29:56,090
this man he was going down the steps to

702
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the driveway to warm up his wife's car

703
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because we were like Larry cold mornings

704
00:30:05,769 --> 00:30:03,499
on 35 degrees and he's walking down the

705
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whole areas well width around the car

706
00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:08,179
he's walking down the steps and he's

707
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:11,119
only ugly 1012 feet away and he turns

708
00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:14,090
and looks at his wife's car and he said

709
00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:15,950
I don't even how to explain what I saw

710
00:30:20,049 --> 00:30:18,230
or what this thing was but he said I

711
00:30:22,629 --> 00:30:20,059
turned around the look and right behind

712
00:30:25,509 --> 00:30:22,639
the right bumper of the car is this

713
00:30:27,549 --> 00:30:25,519
object that's about two feet tall he

714
00:30:29,289 --> 00:30:27,559
said it kind of resembled a small

715
00:30:32,590 --> 00:30:29,299
haystack is there any way you could

716
00:30:35,499 --> 00:30:32,600
describe it it was transformed not white

717
00:30:37,389 --> 00:30:35,509
it was kind of a Silver Lake up yeah

718
00:30:40,629 --> 00:30:37,399
kind of a glassy silver like appearance

719
00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:40,639
and there also appeared to be some type

720
00:30:46,029 --> 00:30:43,460
of black lines something going through

721
00:30:47,769 --> 00:30:46,039
the body of whatever this thing was this

722
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:47,779
thing was hovering about 1 to 2 inches

723
00:30:53,710 --> 00:30:51,470
above the driveway and he got a little

724
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:53,720
closer to this thing and he said all of

725
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,129
a sudden months I realize it was there

726
00:31:00,129 --> 00:30:57,440
and he said all of a sudden he said this

727
00:31:02,409 --> 00:31:00,139
thing without any sound zipped to the

728
00:31:04,509 --> 00:31:02,419
left side of the bumper then it moves

729
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:04,519
like a bullet straight down into the

730
00:31:06,909 --> 00:31:06,230
darkness along the side of the car and

731
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:06,919
was gone

732
00:31:10,330 --> 00:31:09,080
and he said I only wish I had my cell

733
00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:10,340
phone with me to get a picture of this

734
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:13,460
thing so it only lasted seconds he got a

735
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:15,529
good look at it but what this thing was

736
00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:18,950
where went to is a wholesome experience

737
00:31:22,659 --> 00:31:20,869
he just couldn't explain I'll tell you

738
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:22,669
just hearing these stories you can get

739
00:31:28,349 --> 00:31:25,570
pretty wacky just thinking about them

740
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:28,359
our thighs been open since 1969 my phone

741
00:31:32,489 --> 00:31:30,159
never stops running with rapport so

742
00:31:32,849 --> 00:31:32,499
between that and the emails I get every

743
00:31:35,099 --> 00:31:32,859
day

744
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,109
it's unbelievable how much stuff goes on

745
00:31:40,259 --> 00:31:37,600
and can you imagine how much is not

746
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:40,269
reported or people wait for weeks or

747
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:41,529
months sometimes years before they

748
00:31:46,499 --> 00:31:44,289
report in I do a lot of lectures locally

749
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,509
and around the country everywhere I go I

750
00:31:50,369 --> 00:31:48,399
spoke at a big event in Pittsburgh over

751
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:50,379
the weekend everywhere I go people come

752
00:31:54,269 --> 00:31:52,570
up to me and share experiences with me

753
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,279
some of them rather call me later talk

754
00:31:57,930 --> 00:31:56,320
to me privately but they tell me about

755
00:32:00,089 --> 00:31:57,940
all these encounters they've had with

756
00:32:02,339 --> 00:32:00,099
cryptids and UFOs and other strange

757
00:32:03,659 --> 00:32:02,349
phenomena we can't even imagine how much

758
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:03,669
of this is going on but it's not

759
00:32:07,859 --> 00:32:05,769
reported and you got to remember there's

760
00:32:09,629 --> 00:32:07,869
many other groups and investigators out

761
00:32:13,739 --> 00:32:09,639
there now they're all getting reports

762
00:32:16,499 --> 00:32:13,749
too so this is a phenomena that is much

763
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:16,509
more active much more common than many

764
00:32:22,889 --> 00:32:19,840
people realize are we seeing or have you

765
00:32:24,589 --> 00:32:22,899
followed that much are we seeing areas

766
00:32:31,769 --> 00:32:24,599
of the country where we're getting an

767
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,779
unusually high percentage of stuff a lot

768
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:33,279
of information around the country but I

769
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:35,049
I'm so busy just focusing on

770
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:37,570
Pennsylvania I'm not aware of that just

771
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:39,369
in Pennsylvania Bucks County Fayette

772
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,460
County Westmoreland County though these

773
00:32:47,609 --> 00:32:45,279
are some of the per capita I think Bucks

774
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:47,619
County is third in the country for per

775
00:32:51,659 --> 00:32:49,720
capita UFO sightings and of course all

776
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:51,669
along that I guess it'd be the west side

777
00:32:55,619 --> 00:32:53,200
of the Alleghenies there that Chestnut

778
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:55,629
Ridge area as you mentioned has just

779
00:33:01,469 --> 00:32:58,960
been every time that we stand on the

780
00:33:03,869 --> 00:33:01,479
show he's got a whole new slew of

781
00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:03,879
sighting reports that have come from

782
00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:06,340
that that particular part of the state

783
00:33:11,879 --> 00:33:08,700
it's it's an area I can't wait to go

784
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:11,889
investigate they're down around the

785
00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:13,720
border over there with I guess would be

786
00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:17,590
around Morgantown correct or would be

787
00:33:20,729 --> 00:33:18,700
going over in that general direction

788
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:20,739
then coming back to the Southwest

789
00:33:25,070 --> 00:33:23,080
Pennsylvania Indiana would be at the

790
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:25,080
north of Chestnut Ridge and then

791
00:33:36,539 --> 00:33:33,930
you've got again the active areas are

792
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:36,549
Westmoreland say yet in Indiana County

793
00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:38,409
then going down into Preston County West

794
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:39,780
Virginia

795
00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:43,870
right okay yes I don't know if you've

796
00:33:47,490 --> 00:33:46,600
seen or not that October 20th of last

797
00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:47,500
year

798
00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:49,240
Jeff Breedlove but I think you might be

799
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:51,280
aware itself it has small-town monsters

800
00:33:57,210 --> 00:33:55,000
he produced the film which I did a lot

801
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:57,220
of I was involved deeply in the film was

802
00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:59,050
caught invasion on Chestnut Ridge which

803
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,200
is on Amazon right now and a number of

804
00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:04,480
very interesting witnesses came forward

805
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:07,150
for this first time to share their

806
00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:08,889
encounters with some of the Kecksburg

807
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:12,100
case and UFOs and cryptids and it's a

808
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:15,460
very fascinating new documentary yeah

809
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:18,520
that areas is it's for the East Coast

810
00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:20,830
there's a lot of real vast remote areas

811
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:23,380
there would like hardly any roads at all

812
00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:26,409
just a few a few kind of forest roads

813
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:28,120
going through the area but there's vast

814
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:30,460
stretches of a wilderness out there I'm

815
00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:32,649
on Google Earth right now looking

816
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:36,520
especially the area with Ohio pile on

817
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:40,000
the west or on the east and the Lamont

818
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furnace on the west and chalk Hill at

819
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the south end there's a huge area there

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that's got to be 40 square miles of just

821
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nothing but mountains and you're naming

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numerous towns which has a great history

823
00:35:01,740 --> 00:34:59,560
of a lot of frequent Bigfoot reports

824
00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:01,750
yeah that is all that right in that area

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and right outside a fair chance in that

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general area may 10th 2016 there was

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amazing Bigfoot encounters as my

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associate Jim Brown vestigators and I've

829
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had many case from up there but that day

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these two men were riding down this very

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thick very world road in that area which

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has a lot of history of these incidents

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it was a pouring down rain in this huge

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seven-foot tall hairy Bigfoot creature

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comes down the left side of the road and

836
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stands 20 feet in front of their vehicle

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in the middle of the roads if standing

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there looking at them they're standing

839
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there the two men in the car looking at

840
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it this goes on for a short period of

841
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time at one point the fellas in the car

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actually moved their vehicle right up to

843
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this thing and

844
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actually have the bumper of it against

845
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the the needs of the creature and a turn

846
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around put its hands on the front of the

847
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car then back something walks down the

848
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road off into the woods very very

849
00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:06,420
interesting very detailed case you go to

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my website Stan Gordon got info you can

851
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read the whole report on there and it's

852
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just been an area where we had reports I

853
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I've heard of a report in recent weeks

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not far from there from another

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individual and it's just a yearly

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phenomena it goes on all the time and I

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can tell you the stranger the report the

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more reluctant a lot of the witnesses

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are to come forward but let's stop right

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here we're gonna have more of these

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unusual cases from all over Pennsylvania

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and environs more to come with Jeanne

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us about all the strange and unusual

981
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:53,950
encounters across Pennsylvania year

982
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after year now I brought this up before

983
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in terms of intensity of activity do you

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have stats comparing the number of

985
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events in Pennsylvania in 2017 compared

986
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to previous years UFOs Bigfoot cryptid

987
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:11,799
encounters you know I I did it for years

988
00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:15,640
and years I have three my time now is

989
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:17,380
very limited compared with you see I'm

990
00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:19,690
still extremely busy doing this but I've

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got three young grandchildren which my

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wife and I spending a lot of time a

993
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babysitting and I wish I had more extra

994
00:42:31,259 --> 00:42:28,480
time to do it so I unfortunately I don't

995
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:31,269
I mean I keep records of all my reports

996
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:33,880
but also you know in those reports here

997
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:35,980
after year there was a lot of reports so

998
00:42:40,589 --> 00:42:38,529
we could explain away and because there

999
00:42:42,749 --> 00:42:40,599
was an explanation for them but I keep

1000
00:42:46,019 --> 00:42:42,759
records of all my case all my reports

1001
00:42:48,509 --> 00:42:46,029
but I haven't seen anything significant

1002
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:48,519
in in the way of a major outbreak or

1003
00:42:53,069 --> 00:42:51,190
major increase in unusual activity

1004
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:53,079
because I get reports every and since

1005
00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:56,079
1973 when we had that major major UFO

1006
00:43:00,239 --> 00:42:58,119
Bigfoot wave here and there have been

1007
00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:00,249
periodic waves there every once in a

1008
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:03,549
while but nothing major like that but

1009
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:05,170
we're getting those very intriguing

1010
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:07,450
incidents and I'm just really basically

1011
00:43:11,540 --> 00:43:09,600
focusing on those really interesting

1012
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,550
cases because there are the ones that

1013
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are most important for those who have

1014
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:17,400
something weird happen to them is it

1015
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:19,980
still just call you or something well

1016
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:22,530
again a lot of people call me you know I

1017
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:24,510
still get out as best I can cases as

1018
00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:26,340
warrant an investigation you know back

1019
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:29,160
in this 1970 I found in my first group

1020
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:31,380
that was a Westmoreland County UFO study

1021
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:33,240
group and it was probably the most

1022
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:35,190
active in the field in the country for

1023
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:39,270
years and years by 1973 we had started

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as a small group here in Greensburg in

1025
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the Pittsburgh area by 1973 we had

1026
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covered a whole state of Pennsylvania

1027
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:46,080
and the group was kind of unique in that

1028
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,060
the majority of people involved were

1029
00:43:52,610 --> 00:43:50,400
research specialists with scientists and

1030
00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:52,620
engineers and technicians and chief

1031
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:54,300
police officers and former military

1032
00:44:00,530 --> 00:43:56,610
intelligence people and went on and on

1033
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:00,540
and on and 1973 has more more people

1034
00:44:04,850 --> 00:44:03,330
finding out about us actually we began

1035
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:04,860
to get referrals from the State Police

1036
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:07,200
and other agencies we were just

1037
00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:09,330
overwhelmed with reports and then that

1038
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:12,750
major outbreak occurred in in 73 so we

1039
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:14,910
were lucky we already established and we

1040
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were just out there day and night

1041
00:44:21,110 --> 00:44:19,560
investigating reports so I expanded and

1042
00:44:25,610 --> 00:44:21,120
I had two other groups over the years

1043
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:25,620
and since November of 93 I've been

1044
00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:27,330
working as the independent researcher

1045
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:30,180
but I maintain contact with many other

1046
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:31,550
researchers and groups around

1047
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:34,020
Pennsylvania around the country I still

1048
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:36,210
have some of the my original research

1049
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,370
people I still work with so if I'm

1050
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:41,040
unable unable to get out and can't do as

1051
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:43,380
much as I used to do but I got as much

1052
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:45,210
as I can in case of warranted or other

1053
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:47,310
people that I'm aware of can go out to

1054
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:49,350
investigate in some cases but I

1055
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:52,800
interview people all the time and these

1056
00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:55,290
reports are ongoing so people yes they

1057
00:44:59,840 --> 00:44:57,900
can call me anytime and talk to me what

1058
00:45:02,420 --> 00:44:59,850
do you find in terms of attitudes of

1059
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:02,430
people now that we've heard more

1060
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:05,970
credibility given to UFOs since the

1061
00:45:10,310 --> 00:45:08,160
report of this Pentagon UFO study and

1062
00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:10,320
everything you see any change in

1063
00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:11,960
attitude among the people you talk to

1064
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:15,470
not really because you know what I found

1065
00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:18,630
years ago and it's still on goes on all

1066
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:21,120
the time a lot of people call in but

1067
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:22,530
they're very

1068
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didn't at first they don't want to give

1069
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:26,130
their names out they want to make sure

1070
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:28,140
I'm not going to laugh at them you know

1071
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:29,490
they want to share their experience or

1072
00:45:33,710 --> 00:45:30,750
find out other people will have these

1073
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,720
encounters but so many of the people I

1074
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,520
interview over the years of people that

1075
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:38,160
did not believe that UFOs or cryptids

1076
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:39,900
could exist until they had your own

1077
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,750
personal encounter and as for so many of

1078
00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:44,160
these people it was a life-changing

1079
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:46,020
event I mean I'm still in touch with

1080
00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:48,420
some witnesses from probably 20-30 years

1081
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:50,070
ago or more and I write in to talk to

1082
00:45:54,410 --> 00:45:51,990
him every once a while and some of these

1083
00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:54,420
people's lives have never been the same

1084
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:57,030
since they had to encounter so this is

1085
00:46:01,340 --> 00:45:59,370
something you do with quite often but

1086
00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:01,350
people report when they see something

1087
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:03,420
you know some people will see more than

1088
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:04,800
one thing in the past some people have

1089
00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:06,090
never seen anything to this one

1090
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:08,190
particular time and again a lot of the

1091
00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:10,500
reports come in and initially sound very

1092
00:46:14,570 --> 00:46:12,660
strange to least the people think it's

1093
00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:14,580
strange but we can track them down for

1094
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:16,620
example we've had some very bright

1095
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:18,510
fireball meteors over this area in the

1096
00:46:23,330 --> 00:46:20,910
last six months we've had other events

1097
00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:23,340
with the Chinese lanterns and with

1098
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:25,950
drones and you know just a lot of things

1099
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:27,780
this looks strange but we can track them

1100
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:29,670
down to feel what they are but some of

1101
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:31,050
these reverse we've had in the last few

1102
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:33,960
years of these huge solid craft even in

1103
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:36,420
daylight and one of our reports by the

1104
00:46:41,330 --> 00:46:38,790
lab but cryptids and UFOs are in

1105
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:41,340
daylight they're not at nighttime hmm

1106
00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:44,190
that's also interesting event to that

1107
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:46,740
these things are in situations where

1108
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:49,110
it's a lot more difficult to just

1109
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,810
mistake something exactly and with so

1110
00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,520
many of these Bigfoot reports we've had

1111
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:55,560
over the years these are not like you

1112
00:46:59,660 --> 00:46:57,810
see on some of the TV shows where they

1113
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:59,670
see a shadow in the dark a half a mile

1114
00:47:03,110 --> 00:47:00,000
away

1115
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,120
many of these are cases where people

1116
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:06,420
were 10 15 feet sometimes closer away

1117
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:08,910
from these creatures they had very very

1118
00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:10,650
detailed looked at them and over the

1119
00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:13,560
years I mean going back into the 70s we

1120
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:15,000
had incidents where there was more than

1121
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:18,060
one creature seen together and in so

1122
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,920
many of those cases my teams would get

1123
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:21,660
out to these locations within minutes

1124
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:23,850
and hours after they occurred and there

1125
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:26,850
would be trails of footprints so and in

1126
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:28,850
many cases we make casting these tracks

1127
00:47:35,410 --> 00:47:32,730
but also my whole theory on Bigfoot and

1128
00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,420
my idea about Bigfoot has changed some

1129
00:47:39,339 --> 00:47:37,280
dramatically and I wasn't expecting this

1130
00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:39,349
believe me because I started this in

1131
00:47:44,349 --> 00:47:42,500
1959 when I was a kid and I was 16 years

1132
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:44,359
old when the Kecksburg UFO incident

1133
00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:46,730
happened so I began to document that

1134
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,230
information I was breaking on the news

1135
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:50,240
and I began to go out into the field to

1136
00:47:55,859 --> 00:47:52,940
investigate cases firsthand at that time

1137
00:47:58,839 --> 00:47:55,869
so I've been out in the field since 1965

1138
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,849
it's just very interesting you know all

1139
00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:00,079
the people you talk to I've interviewed

1140
00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:02,180
thousands of witnesses now I've seen

1141
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:05,059
what evidence but what I knew about

1142
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:07,250
Bigfoot back in those days was that if

1143
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:09,410
this was something real these creatures

1144
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:11,569
were real they appear to be some type of

1145
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:13,790
unknown primate some type of unknown

1146
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,640
zoological specimen and I interviewed

1147
00:48:21,339 --> 00:48:18,079
people back in those days we had a

1148
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:21,349
little area small area down around West

1149
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:23,690
Newton and what they call over where

1150
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:25,579
they has a lot of Creek areas a lot of

1151
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:28,130
woods and back in the back in the 60s

1152
00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:29,960
they had what they call the Lobo monster

1153
00:48:33,970 --> 00:48:32,180
with 7 8 foot tall covered with hair

1154
00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:33,980
leaving large footprints down there and

1155
00:48:38,530 --> 00:48:36,260
there have been repeated sightings ever

1156
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:38,540
since and even the last few years by

1157
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:42,049
different people and so I always thought

1158
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:43,730
that Bigfoot was probably an unknown

1159
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,730
primate so then these events of 1973

1160
00:48:52,299 --> 00:48:48,880
come around with that major outbreak and

1161
00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:52,309
as all these reports are coming in and

1162
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,750
again back in those days you can

1163
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,359
remember no cell phones no internet

1164
00:48:59,079 --> 00:48:57,680
people generally a lot of case we're

1165
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,089
calling the police first and then we

1166
00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:01,040
were getting reports from them were they

1167
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:02,990
investigated or we investigated we both

1168
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:07,520
did and some very strange things began

1169
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:10,010
to turn up for example with the tracks

1170
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:12,380
we get out there and I had the

1171
00:49:15,339 --> 00:49:13,849
anthropologist by the way in my group

1172
00:49:17,799 --> 00:49:15,349
and we had all kind of scientists in the

1173
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:17,809
group and we are very skeptical but

1174
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,390
open-minded but here's track so suddenly

1175
00:49:25,089 --> 00:49:22,400
stop and vanish when it should have been

1176
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:25,099
more tracks even in snow and fresh snow

1177
00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:27,650
with no other tracks around you would

1178
00:49:31,539 --> 00:49:29,390
have these large footprints with these

1179
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:31,549
great strides between them that would

1180
00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:33,890
suddenly stop and disappear and that was

1181
00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:36,470
it it didn't make any sense and then we

1182
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:39,020
began to see some odd patterns back then

1183
00:49:43,799 --> 00:49:41,390
we'd have a UFO sighting in a particular

1184
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:43,809
area within minutes hours and days later

1185
00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:45,950
we'd have a Bigfoot sighting or

1186
00:49:49,329 --> 00:49:48,470
vice-versa and then as we talked about

1187
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:49,339
in the past

1188
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:52,329
we had some of those amazing cases of

1189
00:49:57,099 --> 00:49:54,740
UFOs or Bigfoot seen together at the

1190
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,109
same time in place and Chris mentioned

1191
00:50:00,640 --> 00:49:59,359
the Ohio pile a little bit ago when

1192
00:50:02,530 --> 00:50:00,650
you're looking at the map along the

1193
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:02,540
ridge and that's where that really

1194
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:05,450
amazing UFO Bigfoot incident happened

1195
00:50:10,839 --> 00:50:08,089
that was the case that convinced me in

1196
00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:10,849
my team that there was a lot more to the

1197
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Bigfoot phenomena maybe than just a

1198
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:15,650
flesh-and-blood explanation that we may

1199
00:50:20,290 --> 00:50:16,910
be dealing with something as much

1200
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:20,300
stranger indeed and if you want to get

1201
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:22,460
into that I've worked on multitudes of

1202
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:25,250
cryptid cases even in recent years which

1203
00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:27,020
suggest more and more that we're dealing

1204
00:50:31,569 --> 00:50:29,150
with something that maybe for a lack of

1205
00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:31,579
a better term as interdimensional yeah

1206
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:34,040
well I've always you know we've

1207
00:50:39,130 --> 00:50:37,130
discussed this actually together prior

1208
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:39,140
on one of your prior visits where you

1209
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:40,970
know I my brother had a sighting whether

1210
00:50:45,930 --> 00:50:43,369
it was just you know for footprints and

1211
00:50:48,970 --> 00:50:45,940
then there was no tracks at all in very

1212
00:50:51,099 --> 00:50:48,980
pristine ground for leaving trace

1213
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:51,109
evidence there was no tracks coming to

1214
00:50:55,329 --> 00:50:52,790
the road and no tracks leaving the road

1215
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:55,339
so either either the thing learned how

1216
00:50:59,020 --> 00:50:57,050
to fly or you know someone said well

1217
00:51:01,660 --> 00:50:59,030
maybe maybe it climbed up a tree and

1218
00:51:05,609 --> 00:51:01,670
that's also a possibility but there is

1219
00:51:07,650 --> 00:51:05,619
something beyond pure just

1220
00:51:10,930 --> 00:51:07,660
cryptozoological flesh-and-blood

1221
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:10,940
explanations here and I'm more than

1222
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:13,910
happy to dive into that that whole realm

1223
00:51:19,420 --> 00:51:16,760
with you okay guys I'm going to stop it

1224
00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:19,430
here and then we'll drive next segment

1225
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:21,380
also Chris we have a few questions you

1226
00:51:26,020 --> 00:51:23,390
might want to go to from question right

1227
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:26,030
we have Stan and gene and Chris you're

1228
00:51:38,590 --> 00:51:28,840
in the podcast

1229
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1283
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:13,920
here's Jane Steinberg so Chris issued a

1284
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:15,510
little bit of a statement there and Stan

1285
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:17,130
was going to comment before we ran out

1286
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:19,470
of time how to start a new segment but a

1287
00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:20,790
little bit later we have a few questions

1288
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:22,230
from our listeners from the question

1289
00:54:26,359 --> 00:54:24,180
Bank and the power cast forums we'll get

1290
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:26,369
to yeah let's go ahead and talk about

1291
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:29,369
some some more head-scratching cases

1292
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:30,510
that would indicate we're dealing with

1293
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:32,790
something either that's flesh and blood

1294
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:35,280
and has some wild talents or is

1295
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,540
something that possibly is

1296
00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:38,640
multi-dimensional for lack of a better

1297
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:41,670
term yeah well a couple case does come

1298
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:44,040
to top of my head you had mentioned

1299
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:44,970
Ohiopyle

1300
00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:47,130
well that was the case that really

1301
00:54:50,810 --> 00:54:49,020
convinced me and my team that we were

1302
00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:50,820
dealing with something much more unusual

1303
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,460
I remember a date I remember that very

1304
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:56,400
well February 6 1974 deep in the

1305
00:55:01,400 --> 00:54:58,290
mountains up there in Ohio Pioneer

1306
00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:01,410
Ohiopyle the listeners on your show will

1307
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:04,020
remember this time period because one we

1308
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:05,850
had a big national trucker strike and

1309
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:07,260
there was gas rationing going on around

1310
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:09,810
the country but there was also a lot of

1311
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:12,210
violence on the roads so back in

1312
00:55:16,070 --> 00:55:14,250
Pennsylvania the State Police and the

1313
00:55:18,530 --> 00:55:16,080
National Guard were patrolling together

1314
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:18,540
and both of them responded to this

1315
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:20,730
incident deep in the mountains of

1316
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:23,609
February 74 I wasn't able to get gas in

1317
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,770
my town of Greensburg so I had to wait

1318
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:27,359
for the next morning till I could get up

1319
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,640
to the scene it was a very intriguing

1320
00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:32,400
case and I remembered this woman who

1321
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:33,960
lived up in the mountains all her life

1322
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:36,690
she knew animals very well she was a

1323
00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:38,750
very good shot with her shotgun

1324
00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:41,070
everything was normal then until this

1325
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,630
one particular evening which you were

1326
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:45,359
sitting there watching TV and she hears

1327
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:46,950
this commotion on a little front porch

1328
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:49,950
or a cabin home she had some empty pop

1329
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,810
cans out there some was knocking a pop

1330
00:55:56,660 --> 00:55:54,240
cans around few weeks before she had a

1331
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:56,670
pack of wild dogs coming through so she

1332
00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:58,770
figured off I bet those dogs are back so

1333
00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:00,150
you thought you know what I'll grab my

1334
00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:01,830
shotgun or just fire over her head and

1335
00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:04,500
skes dogs away so she closed one chamber

1336
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:05,340
of her shotgun

1337
00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:07,710
she makes her way over to the wall turns

1338
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:08,280
on this

1339
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:10,140
for the outside lights on a porch and

1340
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:12,930
she proceeds to go to the front porch

1341
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,110
opens up the door and she walks out no

1342
00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:18,480
dogs and they're standing in front of

1343
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:20,700
her a few feet away is this huge Airy

1344
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:23,310
bigfoot-type creature with this arm

1345
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:25,410
straight up over his head so many many

1346
00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:27,660
times I interviewed her she never called

1347
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:29,400
heard a Bigfoot she said it looked like

1348
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:31,650
a great big hairy ape so what does she

1349
00:56:36,740 --> 00:56:34,440
do James her shotgun Ana and she fires

1350
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:36,750
right into it and she said there's this

1351
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:39,690
bright flash of light like the flash on

1352
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:41,730
a camera and the creature physically

1353
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:44,070
vanishes right in front of her 100 feet

1354
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:46,170
away her in-laws lived they heard the

1355
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:47,520
gunshot and they called her on the phone

1356
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:49,020
and that's like what are you shooting at

1357
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:51,930
and she tries to tell him her son and

1358
00:56:56,210 --> 00:56:54,330
why he grabs his pistol and he starts

1359
00:56:58,460 --> 00:56:56,220
making his way up that dark road up

1360
00:57:00,560 --> 00:56:58,470
towards the cabin and he sees a figure

1361
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:00,570
running down the road but he says he got

1362
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:02,730
closer he was surrounded by four or five

1363
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:05,040
hairy people with eyes like coals of

1364
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:07,650
fire he started shooting randomly I ran

1365
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:09,870
into the cabin and it was about that

1366
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:11,730
point when they were looking up out the

1367
00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:13,650
window and they see this large object

1368
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,230
with different colored lights on it like

1369
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:18,000
a big Christmas ornament hovering over

1370
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:20,010
the woods at the same time and that's

1371
00:57:24,110 --> 00:57:22,140
when they called the State Police by the

1372
00:57:25,550 --> 00:57:24,120
time - State Police and those Guardsmen

1373
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:25,560
found her way up to the mountain up that

1374
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:28,110
at home whatever was going well I wasn't

1375
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:30,450
going back to normal because I talked to

1376
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:32,970
the primary state police investigator

1377
00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:35,220
and he said I don't know what happened

1378
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:37,080
up there but if something was really

1379
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:40,470
weird that he based on the animal

1380
00:57:44,660 --> 00:57:42,570
reactions now I told you I've never

1381
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:44,670
personally seen the UFO a Bigfoot myself

1382
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:47,130
which is true but I have been out on the

1383
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:48,660
scene within minutes after some of these

1384
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:51,480
Bigfoot encounters so this has been

1385
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:52,890
notice in the various type of livestock

1386
00:57:58,790 --> 00:57:56,510
and horses and cattle and cats and

1387
00:58:01,070 --> 00:57:58,800
different people have told me about

1388
00:58:04,310 --> 00:58:01,080
seeing this different times but it's

1389
00:58:06,830 --> 00:58:04,320
been very apparent in dogs that even the

1390
00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:06,840
most vicious dogs when they're close to

1391
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:09,150
these creatures they just are like

1392
00:58:14,350 --> 00:58:11,610
completely paralyzed they won't bark

1393
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:14,360
they don't move they cower they hide

1394
00:58:18,530 --> 00:58:17,250
people told me they watched them inside

1395
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:18,540
of their pens and her eyes will move

1396
00:58:22,970 --> 00:58:20,970
around but they won't make a sound

1397
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:22,980
something that's been very very common

1398
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:25,319
and people told me that sometimes two or

1399
00:58:28,750 --> 00:58:27,300
three days later took before the animals

1400
00:58:30,829 --> 00:58:28,760
would get back to eating properly

1401
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:30,839
another thing that was interesting about

1402
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:32,910
that case here's one of the many little

1403
00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:35,609
kid bits I uncovered about the Bigfoot

1404
00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:37,470
you'll hear about a lot but I've had

1405
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:39,900
numerous cases over the years where

1406
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:42,210
people were encountering Bigfoot and

1407
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,890
other phenomena under properties and

1408
00:58:49,220 --> 00:58:45,900
they would talk about hearing this

1409
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:49,230
strange metallic sound like tearing

1410
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:52,140
metal something hitting metal but here

1411
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:54,690
she's talking about the the metal that

1412
00:58:59,690 --> 00:58:57,000
the cans of pop that were knocked around

1413
00:59:01,609 --> 00:58:59,700
on her property at the time that attract

1414
00:59:03,859 --> 00:59:01,619
her to go out to see the creature but

1415
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:03,869
that was the case among others and that

1416
00:59:07,579 --> 00:59:05,730
was the only case I have like it with

1417
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:07,589
suggestive the will of dealing with

1418
00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:09,569
something more than this flesh-and-blood

1419
00:59:14,359 --> 00:59:12,180
nature Chris you want to move to a

1420
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,369
couple of questions we have some really

1421
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:16,980
good questions from Erickson red who's

1422
00:59:24,020 --> 00:59:21,170
been a forum poster since January 2013

1423
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:24,030
and he doesn't come out very often stand

1424
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:26,609
but you know our better guests like

1425
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,950
yourself tends to bring out the better

1426
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:30,960
questions it's got a whole slew of them

1427
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:32,730
here he's wondering if you think it's

1428
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:34,950
likely the Bigfoot exists which

1429
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:37,530
obviously you do and being that's the

1430
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:39,450
case aside from the evidential problem

1431
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:41,490
that precludes many people from

1432
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:43,650
accepting its existence do you think

1433
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,450
that there's a psychological barrier to

1434
00:59:49,069 --> 00:59:47,280
accept you know perhaps the idea of

1435
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:49,079
another bipedal highly intelligent and

1436
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:51,119
roughly human-like creature somehow

1437
00:59:56,410 --> 00:59:55,200
upsets our human identity why do you

1438
00:59:59,740 --> 00:59:56,420
think people have such a problem

1439
01:00:02,240 --> 00:59:59,750
accepting the possibility of Bigfoots

1440
01:00:05,420 --> 01:00:02,250
it's not just the people who have never

1441
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,430
seen one that have a problem dealing

1442
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:07,920
with it's also the people that once they

1443
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,130
see it yes for many people it's very

1444
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:13,920
emotional form psychologically some

1445
01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:15,480
people claim you know that's a fact that

1446
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:17,400
I mean I know witnesses from years ago

1447
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,839
they have these encounters and they

1448
01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:20,400
still can't deal with the facts they

1449
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:22,470
know they saw it they can't believe they

1450
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,210
encounter something that's not supposed

1451
01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:26,400
to exist that's the whole problem with

1452
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:28,020
the phenomena you know I've interviewed

1453
01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:29,369
hundreds of people who've seen these

1454
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:31,500
things now the high percentage of people

1455
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,090
are those

1456
01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:35,760
who again would never believe that these

1457
01:00:39,380 --> 01:00:37,590
things could exist until they add their

1458
01:00:41,330 --> 01:00:39,390
own personal encounter especially

1459
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:41,340
hunters I've interviewed many hunters

1460
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:43,350
who spent years and years out forth I

1461
01:00:49,130 --> 01:00:45,680
remember one guy years ago he was

1462
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:49,140
hunting in an area and he noticed that

1463
01:00:53,810 --> 01:00:52,110
day from what I recall that he hunted in

1464
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:53,820
this area all the time and generally was

1465
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:56,370
floored with wildlife he goes out he's

1466
01:01:00,320 --> 01:00:58,050
walk around for hours as though birds

1467
01:01:01,850 --> 01:01:00,330
there's no rabbits there's no wildlife

1468
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:01,860
sound it was just like everything was

1469
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,010
going very common in areas where Bigfoot

1470
01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:07,680
has been around for a short time and he

1471
01:01:10,850 --> 01:01:09,240
said he began to have the feeling

1472
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:10,860
something had been following him and

1473
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:12,930
it's getting about dusk he starts

1474
01:01:17,330 --> 01:01:15,210
returning to his vehicle and he happened

1475
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:17,340
to turn around and he looked up on the

1476
01:01:24,110 --> 01:01:22,410
hill is his huge hairy 8-foot tall hairy

1477
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:24,120
covered creature standing there staring

1478
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:27,090
at him and he said my god that thing

1479
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:29,160
could easily just turn my vehicle over

1480
01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:32,070
but he went out of there and he said he

1481
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:33,660
went home and he sat back in his chair

1482
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:35,220
he had an old house it was what I

1483
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:37,710
ceilings he said by God death they was

1484
01:01:41,330 --> 01:01:40,110
as tall as my ceiling and he said he

1485
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:41,340
never would go back out in the woods

1486
01:01:45,740 --> 01:01:43,410
again and after that he spent year after

1487
01:01:47,450 --> 01:01:45,750
year in the woods well you know you

1488
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:47,460
brought up gene you brought up a few

1489
01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:49,410
minutes ago you talked about could these

1490
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:52,140
things fly well I'm not so sure they can

1491
01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:53,850
fly but that's something that some

1492
01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:55,380
witnesses are brought up and I remember

1493
01:02:01,310 --> 01:01:58,500
that detail from one outstanding Bigfoot

1494
01:02:03,140 --> 01:02:01,320
case and this was a fella I really use

1495
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:03,150
names because most people don't want to

1496
01:02:07,610 --> 01:02:05,130
named his this gentleman in particular

1497
01:02:09,830 --> 01:02:07,620
gave me permission to use his name after

1498
01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:09,840
his incident because actually after he

1499
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,630
saw it and he became a little more

1500
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:14,880
adjusted to what happened he actually

1501
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:16,530
went on some radio and TV shows with me

1502
01:02:22,010 --> 01:02:19,770
back in 73 to tell the people that it is

1503
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:22,020
real I didn't believe it I saw it myself

1504
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:24,030
it's out something's out there but

1505
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:26,070
anyhow this fellow's name was Chester

1506
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,050
this happened outside of Latrobe

1507
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:30,960
Pennsylvania not far from the ridge in a

1508
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:33,000
little town named Whitney Pennsylvania I

1509
01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:36,930
believe was Labor Day morning 1973 the

1510
01:02:41,060 --> 01:02:39,750
night before he and his wife and

1511
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:41,070
neighbors were sitting on their patio

1512
01:02:44,650 --> 01:02:43,010
outside and they were reading the

1513
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:44,660
papers and was covering some of the

1514
01:02:48,340 --> 01:02:46,610
Bigfoot stories in the area and they

1515
01:02:50,410 --> 01:02:48,350
were just howling and laughing and

1516
01:02:52,510 --> 01:02:50,420
making fun of this thing and he and he's

1517
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:52,520
laughing out like I'm my Bigfoot come on

1518
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:55,010
Bigfoot I want to see you well lo and

1519
01:03:00,250 --> 01:02:57,530
behold I believe is about four o'clock

1520
01:03:02,050 --> 01:03:00,260
in the morning everybody's asleep his

1521
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:02,060
wife's asleep there's this big bang

1522
01:03:06,190 --> 01:03:04,730
against her mobile home and he cuts up

1523
01:03:07,870 --> 01:03:06,200
to look in the dark unless the lights

1524
01:03:09,850 --> 01:03:07,880
out he thought somebody was breaking

1525
01:03:11,530 --> 01:03:09,860
into his garage behind his mobile home

1526
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:11,540
because he had a nice antique car there

1527
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:14,690
and he looks out the window and standing

1528
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:16,490
right on the opposite side of the window

1529
01:03:21,220 --> 01:03:18,710
so within a foot or two away from him

1530
01:03:23,830 --> 01:03:21,230
but it's back it's looking away from him

1531
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,840
is this eight to nine foot tall hairy

1532
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:26,240
creature with long arms holding the arms

1533
01:03:30,310 --> 01:03:28,160
in front of its body looking away from

1534
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:30,320
him towards the house next door let's

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01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:58,989
nine one four a catalog cow bands soap

1615
01:07:02,729 --> 01:07:00,640
company can save you thousands of

1616
01:07:05,249 --> 01:07:02,739
dollars and give you good old-fashioned

1617
01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:05,259
real soaps that are triple concentrated

1618
01:07:09,509 --> 01:07:07,299
soaps made from vegetable and coconut

1619
01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:09,519
oils see they're full selection of soaps

1620
01:07:15,749 --> 01:07:12,609
at five star soap calm that's f IV e

1621
01:07:17,579 --> 01:07:15,759
star soap calm will call 1-800 three

1622
01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:17,589
four zero seven zero nine one four a

1623
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:20,319
catalog fully cooked ready-to-eat bacon

1624
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,209
I'm talking thick meaty center cut

1625
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:24,400
presidential bacon savory and delicious

1626
01:07:30,209 --> 01:07:27,729
I buy some I use some I store some

1627
01:07:31,709 --> 01:07:30,219
awesome no refrigeration needed with a

1628
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:31,719
ten year shelf-life

1629
01:07:37,019 --> 01:07:34,630
NASA pack technology bacon fully cooked

1630
01:07:39,319 --> 01:07:37,029
fully hydrated ready-to-eat right from

1631
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:39,329
the pack bacon or warm and served

1632
01:07:44,819 --> 01:07:42,190
life-saving ready to eat bacon ten year

1633
01:07:47,099 --> 01:07:44,829
shelf-life bacon ships free at fully

1634
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:47,109
cooked bacon calm fully cooked bacon

1635
01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:52,809
calm we'd like to hear from you if you

1636
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:54,459
have a comment or question about the

1637
01:08:11,120 --> 01:07:55,680
para cast

1638
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,130
forums at forum dot the podcast.com the

1639
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:13,440
stuff of nightmares would you like to

1640
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,210
confront one of those creatures Stan

1641
01:08:19,939 --> 01:08:17,279
Gordon but it's never happened to you

1642
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:19,949
it's not happened to me and I kind of

1643
01:08:23,209 --> 01:08:22,170
feel better that it hasn't but you just

1644
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,219
don't know what you're missing out on

1645
01:08:30,979 --> 01:08:25,440
dude well some things I don't mind

1646
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:30,989
missing that episode was an interesting

1647
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:31,290
one

1648
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:33,900
yes please we're waiting with bated

1649
01:08:42,349 --> 01:08:36,839
breath take the bait out of my breasts

1650
01:08:43,999 --> 01:08:42,359
and we can go on he in the delays the

1651
01:08:45,260 --> 01:08:44,009
lights out he goes over and awakens his

1652
01:08:47,599 --> 01:08:45,270
wife they said that thing they call

1653
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:47,609
Bigfoot it's out on our patio so she

1654
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:49,560
goes to the window and looks and oh my

1655
01:08:54,499 --> 01:08:52,170
god oh my god well this poor fellow was

1656
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:54,509
up he was a retired coal miner at

1657
01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:58,170
emphysema and between hardly being able

1658
01:09:02,599 --> 01:09:00,600
to breathe and so scared he makes his

1659
01:09:04,669 --> 01:09:02,609
way over to the phone bumps the wall

1660
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:04,679
which may have scared it away at that

1661
01:09:07,700 --> 01:09:05,130
point

1662
01:09:09,229 --> 01:09:07,710
dials old for the operator and tells the

1663
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,239
operator he needs to talk to the State

1664
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:11,460
Police and he calls the State Police and

1665
01:09:15,559 --> 01:09:13,170
tells him what happened I heard the

1666
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,569
radio call go out they had six troopers

1667
01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:17,520
there and three cars and the trooper

1668
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:19,140
called me from the scene to come out

1669
01:09:26,269 --> 01:09:22,170
there in that morning and when troopers

1670
01:09:28,340 --> 01:09:26,279
got there they found that the gesture to

1671
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:28,350
cut the grass the night before and there

1672
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:31,500
was a whole series of tracks one across

1673
01:09:35,780 --> 01:09:33,630
the freshly cut grass across his patio

1674
01:09:38,030 --> 01:09:35,790
steps and went down over the hill across

1675
01:09:40,340 --> 01:09:38,040
the road some of the troopers follow the

1676
01:09:42,260 --> 01:09:40,350
tracks for a distance but at one point

1677
01:09:44,959 --> 01:09:42,270
the track suddenly stopped and

1678
01:09:47,209 --> 01:09:44,969
disappeared up in his yard and Chester

1679
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:47,219
said to me I don't understand how this

1680
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:48,449
thing could just these tracks

1681
01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:50,130
additionally stop he said do these

1682
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:52,380
things fly so that's what brought back

1683
01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:54,330
that story yes and I can tell you

1684
01:09:58,669 --> 01:09:56,460
Chester his wife afterwards were so

1685
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,679
upset they tacked to close up for a

1686
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,719
short time and left her home that was

1687
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:02,400
the only family did that that was the

1688
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:03,960
kind of the impact it had on the

1689
01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:06,690
witnesses when he came back he decided

1690
01:10:10,610 --> 01:10:07,470
he was

1691
01:10:13,340 --> 01:10:10,620
to share a story so he did to mop media

1692
01:10:15,470 --> 01:10:13,350
events with me but that was one of those

1693
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:15,480
cases somebody that would never believe

1694
01:10:19,670 --> 01:10:16,950
these things are real tenets of their

1695
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:19,680
own encounter yeah and you brought up a

1696
01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:21,810
very interesting point before that you

1697
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:24,300
talked to people years later and I think

1698
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:26,700
some investigators in our shoes have

1699
01:10:30,050 --> 01:10:28,860
gotten used to it's not a surprise

1700
01:10:31,670 --> 01:10:30,060
anymore that people have really been

1701
01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:31,680
changed by these experiences and they

1702
01:10:36,710 --> 01:10:33,900
had a profound impact on their their

1703
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,720
reality view their ways of looking at

1704
01:10:39,710 --> 01:10:37,920
their surroundings

1705
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:39,720
you know impact their behavior not

1706
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:40,890
wanting to go out in the woods again

1707
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:43,290
that sort of thing you know when people

1708
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:44,910
say that all these are just people with

1709
01:10:49,670 --> 01:10:48,060
overly fertile imaginations or you know

1710
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:49,680
hoaxers people who are looking for

1711
01:10:52,430 --> 01:10:50,280
attention

1712
01:10:53,810 --> 01:10:52,440
you know I beg to differ you sure

1713
01:10:55,730 --> 01:10:53,820
there's probably a few of those types

1714
01:10:57,410 --> 01:10:55,740
out there but I think I think the

1715
01:11:00,260 --> 01:10:57,420
majority of the least cases that I've

1716
01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:00,270
investigated and the vast majority of

1717
01:11:05,710 --> 01:11:02,790
witnesses I've I've encountered and

1718
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:05,720
talked to they all seem legitimately

1719
01:11:10,580 --> 01:11:08,640
impacted by their experience and it just

1720
01:11:12,650 --> 01:11:10,590
makes I think most people more curious

1721
01:11:14,990 --> 01:11:12,660
really it makes them really want to get

1722
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:15,000
answers and basically what I'm hearing

1723
01:11:18,350 --> 01:11:16,650
from you stands is is pretty much the

1724
01:11:19,460 --> 01:11:18,360
same thing that that these are

1725
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:19,470
life-changing and life-altering

1726
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,420
experiences and they really do impact

1727
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:23,760
people yeah I just talked to I was

1728
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:25,020
something he's been speaking over the

1729
01:11:29,860 --> 01:11:27,570
weekend and a fellow approached me and I

1730
01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:29,870
I did a long interview with him then and

1731
01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:32,760
I got to meet his parents actually and

1732
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:34,830
this fella has been hunting all his

1733
01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:37,920
lights but camping up all his life he

1734
01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:39,480
pretty much knows what's going on out

1735
01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:41,460
there and whatever happened to him just

1736
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:43,140
several months ago in an area where I've

1737
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:45,360
had a history of Bigfoot encounters it

1738
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:47,730
scared him so bad he told me he said I

1739
01:11:52,010 --> 01:11:49,560
was never so frightened in my life and

1740
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:52,020
he said I love the woods

1741
01:11:56,780 --> 01:11:54,510
I love the forest he said I'll never go

1742
01:11:58,340 --> 01:11:56,790
back that area again he said there was

1743
01:12:01,100 --> 01:11:58,350
something out there and he said just the

1744
01:12:03,260 --> 01:12:01,110
vocalization the depth of the sound that

1745
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:03,270
screams this thing was making was

1746
01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:05,970
ungodly it was unbelievable and that's

1747
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,040
something I hear commonly over the years

1748
01:12:13,580 --> 01:12:10,800
from people just last year up along the

1749
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:13,590
Chestnut Ridge in January as I have for

1750
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:15,090
many years people were calling me

1751
01:12:20,370 --> 01:12:17,370
telling me hear about these these long

1752
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:20,380
very long siren like scream

1753
01:12:24,180 --> 01:12:22,210
they were hearing you know why these

1754
01:12:25,710 --> 01:12:24,190
people lived in the mountains in the

1755
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:25,720
woods and they know the wildlife up

1756
01:12:30,420 --> 01:12:27,910
there they lived it all their life and

1757
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:30,430
they know the sounds that deer make and

1758
01:12:35,190 --> 01:12:33,640
the birds make and coyotes do and these

1759
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:35,200
were completely different sounds and

1760
01:12:40,140 --> 01:12:38,350
interestingly I think was two days later

1761
01:12:42,030 --> 01:12:40,150
after I got to report up on the ridge

1762
01:12:46,140 --> 01:12:42,040
from the other side of the state down

1763
01:12:48,530 --> 01:12:46,150
and show kill County deaths down towards

1764
01:12:52,290 --> 01:12:48,540
Philadelphia a wildlife biologist

1765
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:52,300
contacted me he was very very skeptical

1766
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:54,970
of Bigfoot but this guy has done work in

1767
01:13:00,000 --> 01:12:57,490
a wildlife film for years and years his

1768
01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:00,010
job is to be able to identify animal

1769
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:01,990
sounds that's what he does for his

1770
01:13:07,410 --> 01:13:05,260
living and he was out in the woods in

1771
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:07,420
the particular area I believe he told me

1772
01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:10,150
aired at three times in two days he

1773
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:12,340
wasn't prepared hearing he tried to

1774
01:13:16,770 --> 01:13:14,170
record these sounds but his equipment

1775
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:16,780
wasn't good enough but he described this

1776
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:21,670
very long very vocalized very loud siren

1777
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:24,070
like screams that he could not identify

1778
01:13:28,230 --> 01:13:26,410
very similar reports I had up in this

1779
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:28,240
part of the state two days before he was

1780
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:30,310
perplexed by these said have always been

1781
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:31,930
skeptical Bigfoot but he said I don't

1782
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:33,550
know what kind of animal could make it

1783
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,430
sound like that once again credible

1784
01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:38,080
people say these things just look at

1785
01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:40,630
UFOs with Bigfoot I've interviewed

1786
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:42,190
people from all walks of life from

1787
01:13:49,410 --> 01:13:46,240
children men women police officers and

1788
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:49,420
and hunters and doctors and executives

1789
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:51,910
and school teachers and all kind of

1790
01:13:55,530 --> 01:13:53,350
credible people will have seen these

1791
01:13:57,900 --> 01:13:55,540
things and they have no reason to make

1792
01:13:59,580 --> 01:13:57,910
up the story because 99.9 of them have

1793
01:14:02,370 --> 01:13:59,590
never gone public with their accounts

1794
01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:02,380
they have nothing to gain by it but many

1795
01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:05,590
of them are just very very shook up over

1796
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:07,870
the event and just want some answers and

1797
01:14:12,210 --> 01:14:09,850
unfortunately you know we don't have

1798
01:14:14,190 --> 01:14:12,220
what we got theories we just don't have

1799
01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:14,200
a lot of answers Chris you have some

1800
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:16,660
more questions from our audience we kept

1801
01:14:19,670 --> 01:14:18,250
running out of time here though let's go

1802
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:19,680
through as many as you can

1803
01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:22,810
Chris well along those same lines Rob

1804
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:23,590
Eric the Red

1805
01:14:29,490 --> 01:14:26,530
Stand has another question about about

1806
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:29,500
the the the whole acceptance of this

1807
01:14:33,650 --> 01:14:31,890
particular phenomenal mystery as

1808
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:33,660
as people have been pointing out the

1809
01:14:37,010 --> 01:14:35,370
last couple three weeks there seems to

1810
01:14:39,370 --> 01:14:37,020
be more of all of a sudden more

1811
01:14:41,540 --> 01:14:39,380
acceptance of UFOs because of this

1812
01:14:45,410 --> 01:14:41,550
recent Pentagon

1813
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:45,420
I guess the revelation or revelation

1814
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:48,600
about Pentagon interests which I'm sure

1815
01:14:52,430 --> 01:14:51,090
you and the vast majority of our

1816
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:52,440
listeners know what I'm talking about

1817
01:14:57,020 --> 01:14:54,120
and here's another question that deals

1818
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,030
with that realm but it with Bigfoot and

1819
01:15:01,130 --> 01:14:59,280
that is there are an unprecedented

1820
01:15:03,140 --> 01:15:01,140
number of recorded first-hand encounters

1821
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:03,150
with Bigfoot and every week a variety of

1822
01:15:07,850 --> 01:15:05,520
Bigfoot related podcasts feature

1823
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:07,860
first-hand testimony from alleged

1824
01:15:12,440 --> 01:15:10,530
eyewitnesses the social penalty for

1825
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,450
reporting these experiences is probably

1826
01:15:16,850 --> 01:15:14,880
diminishing over time do you have any

1827
01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:16,860
sense down the timeline we might be in

1828
01:15:20,990 --> 01:15:18,990
for four general you know public

1829
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:21,000
acceptance of the existence of these

1830
01:15:25,580 --> 01:15:24,030
creatures how close are we to to get in

1831
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:25,590
some sort of consensus you know

1832
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:28,970
something short obviously of a bonafide

1833
01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:33,330
remains or absolutely slam-dunk physical

1834
01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:35,580
scientific evidence at the rate we're

1835
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:38,040
going now how long would you see before

1836
01:15:47,930 --> 01:15:45,440
you know yes when that report came out

1837
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:47,940
believed in December and there was a lot

1838
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:50,130
of publicity about it I mean that may

1839
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:51,690
have helped to encourage some people to

1840
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,210
talk about what the UFO phenomena yes

1841
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,880
having started my research back in 1959

1842
01:16:01,220 --> 01:15:58,800
and talked to thousands of the UFO

1843
01:16:03,620 --> 01:16:01,230
witnesses I mean periodically over the

1844
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:03,630
years and then more and more recent

1845
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:05,520
years when all the TV shows about it

1846
01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:07,170
with all the internet information about

1847
01:16:13,610 --> 01:16:11,310
it people were more and more willing to

1848
01:16:15,380 --> 01:16:13,620
discuss the UFO phenomena as the many

1849
01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:15,390
lectures I give in places I speak about

1850
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:18,450
it I see a huge public interest in all

1851
01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:20,690
these reports but UFOs and Bigfoot and

1852
01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:22,980
people are more more willing to talk

1853
01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:25,590
about the UFO stuff okay yeah break it

1854
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:28,140
here I have to break it with Gene Chris

1855
01:16:34,510 --> 01:16:39,140
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1856
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or secure video on computer or smart

1880
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mobile devices GC and telecare comm

1881
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:50,190
virtual care anywhere it's been said any

1882
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society is only three missed meals away

1883
01:17:57,470 --> 01:17:55,380
from chaos those times may be near think

1884
01:17:59,060 --> 01:17:57,480
about it our country faces multiple

1885
01:18:01,550 --> 01:17:59,070
terrorist threats and aggressions from

1886
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:01,560
Russia and North Korea social unrest and

1887
01:18:05,570 --> 01:18:03,330
violent marches yet again may lead to

1888
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:05,580
looting of stores and city shutdowns and

1889
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:07,410
a crumbling infrastructure leaves our

1890
01:18:11,630 --> 01:18:09,150
power grid vulnerable to long term

1891
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:11,640
outages from a single cyberattack when

1892
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:13,290
the chaos from any one of these threats

1893
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:15,330
arises the government knows it can't

1894
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provide during a widespread national

1895
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:19,320
emergency that's why you need your own

1896
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plan for self-reliance that's where my

1897
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:24,690
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1898
01:18:29,180 --> 01:18:27,210
survival food supply for only 99 dollars

1899
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that includes breakfast lunches and

1900
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dinners order online at prepare with GCN

1901
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:34,860
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1902
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survival food that tastes like homemade

1903
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:39,870
cooking and lasts up to 25 years from my

1904
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1905
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1906
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1907
01:18:52,490 --> 01:18:50,520
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1908
01:18:54,230 --> 01:18:52,500
house go into foreclosure are you behind

1909
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:54,240
on your mortgage payments does it seem

1910
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:55,890
like the bank has no interest in helping

1911
01:18:57,899 --> 01:18:56,320
you see

1912
01:18:59,939 --> 01:18:57,909
your home and you feel like you have

1913
01:19:02,399 --> 01:18:59,949
nowhere to turn for help then we have

1914
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good news for you foreclosure protection

1915
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1916
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:06,000
specialize in foreclosure assistance

1917
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:09,070
that's all they do if you're behind on

1918
01:19:12,510 --> 01:19:10,630
your mortgage payments being threatened

1919
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:12,520
with foreclosure have been denied a loan

1920
01:19:16,379 --> 01:19:14,290
modification or been the victim of a

1921
01:19:18,330 --> 01:19:16,389
predatory loan it's critical that you

1922
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:18,340
call foreclosure protection services now

1923
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:25,859
were available to speak to you now if

1924
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:27,550
you're behind on your mortgage payments

1925
01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:29,560
foreclosure protection services can help

1926
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:32,230
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1927
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:33,280
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1928
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:35,530
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1929
01:20:31,939 --> 01:19:37,449
home call foreclosure protection

1930
01:20:36,930 --> 01:20:34,680
bankruptcy we depend on your success and

1931
01:20:57,790 --> 01:20:36,940
offer a guarantee so there's no risk for

1932
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:00,670
this is Robert Hastings author of UFOs

1933
01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:02,510
and nukes and you're listening to the

1934
01:21:13,180 --> 01:21:05,150
podcast the gold standard of paranormal

1935
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:13,190
radio so a little bit later we'll get

1936
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:16,310
into more of the public attitude and I

1937
01:21:20,350 --> 01:21:17,570
want to ask you more about that

1938
01:21:22,140 --> 01:21:20,360
particularly with regard to UFOs you

1939
01:21:25,300 --> 01:21:22,150
want to hit a question or two more Chris

1940
01:21:26,890 --> 01:21:25,310
here's one I don't see very many of

1941
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:26,900
these reports coming from your neck of

1942
01:21:31,090 --> 01:21:28,850
the woods although there are some so

1943
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:31,100
what do you think of dog men and in this

1944
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:34,090
whole resurgence of interest in

1945
01:21:39,670 --> 01:21:38,090
lycanthropy wolf men dog men types and

1946
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:39,680
how do we assess the weight of personal

1947
01:21:43,540 --> 01:21:41,290
testimony of dog men in light of

1948
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:43,550
theoretical objections like absence of

1949
01:21:48,370 --> 01:21:46,070
archeological evidence or presumed

1950
01:21:51,250 --> 01:21:48,380
insufficient ecological support for such

1951
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:51,260
large and hyper carnivorous predators so

1952
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:53,570
many alleged sightings of dog men are in

1953
01:21:57,370 --> 01:21:55,490
daylight or at close to medium ranges is

1954
01:22:00,250 --> 01:21:57,380
is it possible that all sorts such

1955
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:00,260
reports or misidentifications or hoaxes

1956
01:22:08,650 --> 01:22:07,030
there is a very deep very long to very

1957
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:08,660
unusual what I've been coming up with

1958
01:22:11,530 --> 01:22:09,440
over the years

1959
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:11,540
I've heard of the dog men reports for

1960
01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:13,250
many years there have been quite a

1961
01:22:15,730 --> 01:22:14,180
number of sightings

1962
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:15,740
apparently in Pennsylvania I know of

1963
01:22:19,540 --> 01:22:17,330
other researchers are investigating

1964
01:22:21,070 --> 01:22:19,550
numerous alleged dog man sightings over

1965
01:22:22,810 --> 01:22:21,080
the last few years even this year I

1966
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:22,820
understand I know the last several

1967
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:24,290
months they've had reports coming in

1968
01:22:28,570 --> 01:22:26,690
yeah the dog man reports their

1969
01:22:31,570 --> 01:22:28,580
similarities with some of the Bigfoot

1970
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:31,580
reports and it may be that it's not

1971
01:22:36,940 --> 01:22:35,270
something really new yeah along the

1972
01:22:39,820 --> 01:22:36,950
Bigfoot reports that I've had these

1973
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:39,830
again were not in the distance but some

1974
01:22:45,550 --> 01:22:42,080
of these were an extremely close range

1975
01:22:48,090 --> 01:22:45,560
even in daylight very detailed reports

1976
01:22:50,740 --> 01:22:48,100
and you know when I would go back to

1977
01:22:53,410 --> 01:22:50,750
1973 with this major Bigfoot outbreak

1978
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:53,420
and my team was investigated a lot of

1979
01:22:57,190 --> 01:22:55,370
the Bigfoot reports and this is what I

1980
01:22:58,570 --> 01:22:57,200
wrote about my cell invasion book why go

1981
01:23:00,400 --> 01:22:58,580
in a great detail about I think you've

1982
01:23:03,790 --> 01:23:00,410
read the book and there were a lot of

1983
01:23:07,060 --> 01:23:03,800
your so-called typical 6 to 9 foot tall

1984
01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:07,070
hairy man-like creature long arms being

1985
01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:09,620
reported but there was some variation

1986
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:13,670
as well some of those reports would be

1987
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,210
very much like the dog men reports today

1988
01:23:21,490 --> 01:23:19,040
because some of those cases involved

1989
01:23:23,950 --> 01:23:21,500
creatures who were seen that the faces

1990
01:23:25,690 --> 01:23:23,960
were while covered with hair some

1991
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:25,700
witnesses said that the face was more

1992
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:28,970
with light and they had faint very

1993
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:31,610
apparent faint like piece some of those

1994
01:23:36,340 --> 01:23:33,920
reports he had the luminous glowing eyes

1995
01:23:38,290 --> 01:23:36,350
which you still do it with many of the

1996
01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:38,300
Bigfoot reports with a you had the soft

1997
01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:40,430
luminous glowing eyes where there's no

1998
01:23:46,090 --> 01:23:43,430
reflective light there's no artificial

1999
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:46,100
lighting there is no full moon these are

2000
01:23:50,110 --> 01:23:47,840
conditions where there should about any

2001
01:23:52,150 --> 01:23:50,120
type of lumination produced from the

2002
01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:52,160
eyes of the creature not like night

2003
01:23:56,410 --> 01:23:54,350
shine you see on deer for example and

2004
01:23:58,480 --> 01:23:56,420
many hunters have told me about seeing

2005
01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:58,490
this this was completely unnatural the

2006
01:24:03,670 --> 01:24:00,560
luminosity they saw from the eyes of

2007
01:24:06,610 --> 01:24:03,680
these creatures but the Dogman phenomena

2008
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:06,620
is just another one these entity reports

2009
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:08,210
and in a few minutes i'll tell you about

2010
01:24:13,210 --> 01:24:11,120
this very strange entity that a police

2011
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:13,220
officer encountered on patrol two

2012
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:14,690
several months ago here in western

2013
01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:17,120
Pennsylvania I deal with all kinds of

2014
01:24:20,230 --> 01:24:18,860
strange creatures there I'm dealing with

2015
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:20,240
creature reports and things of people

2016
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,770
probably never even wrote about that

2017
01:24:25,660 --> 01:24:23,600
I've never even heard about even last

2018
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:25,670
four years we have the flying humanoid

2019
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:28,370
sightings or winged humanoid sightings

2020
01:24:33,670 --> 01:24:32,000
we have dragon reports and these are

2021
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:33,680
coming from people again who are

2022
01:24:37,810 --> 01:24:35,570
reluctant to tell you about it or

2023
01:24:39,670 --> 01:24:37,820
gaining lesson about it in some cases

2024
01:24:41,980 --> 01:24:39,680
there's more than one witness reporting

2025
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:41,990
the same thing in the same area with

2026
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:45,410
Bigfoot and again it's so complex we

2027
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:46,850
could talk for hours and hours about

2028
01:24:50,260 --> 01:24:48,530
this I have a whole new lecture I do

2029
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:50,270
just on this phenomena called

2030
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,250
strange aspects of the elusive Bigfoot

2031
01:24:56,650 --> 01:24:54,560
of all the weird weird things I've

2032
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:56,660
gotten covered with big flip which makes

2033
01:25:00,190 --> 01:24:58,970
you scratch your head because it just

2034
01:25:03,010 --> 01:25:00,200
suggests and we're dealing with

2035
01:25:04,690 --> 01:25:03,020
something that maybe other than flesh

2036
01:25:09,130 --> 01:25:04,700
and blood which is why there's our

2037
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:09,140
bodies and one thing I I discovered a

2038
01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:10,850
long time ago with the footprints you

2039
01:25:14,770 --> 01:25:12,830
got your typical five toes footprints

2040
01:25:16,750 --> 01:25:14,780
what we've seen all over the country

2041
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:16,760
Chris use an amount in your area of

2042
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:18,410
course they see them all over the

2043
01:25:21,770 --> 01:25:20,250
country in many parts of the world

2044
01:25:23,690 --> 01:25:21,780
and then you get the three toe tracks

2045
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:23,700
we're very common the seventies they

2046
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:25,530
continue to be reported on or off in

2047
01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:27,690
Pennsylvania and other states in other

2048
01:25:31,970 --> 01:25:29,820
parts of the world you've got four toe

2049
01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:31,980
tracks and then there's a whole

2050
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:34,500
menagerie of other footprints and I made

2051
01:25:39,050 --> 01:25:36,810
castile rising picture there was no

2052
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:39,060
indications of hoaxes it sure we've had

2053
01:25:43,460 --> 01:25:41,610
a hoax cases and there's ways to tell

2054
01:25:45,170 --> 01:25:43,470
the difference again I asked for

2055
01:25:47,870 --> 01:25:45,180
scientists and engineers working for

2056
01:25:49,460 --> 01:25:47,880
years and again these were fresh tracks

2057
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:49,470
we're on the scene sometimes within

2058
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:51,930
minutes of ours so we're documenting all

2059
01:25:55,460 --> 01:25:54,450
these things as they were occurring the

2060
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:55,470
whole thing is this

2061
01:26:00,230 --> 01:25:58,080
you've got reputable people you've got

2062
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:00,240
similar evidence of a widespread area

2063
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,730
you got patterns to the phenomena but it

2064
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:03,840
doesn't make any sense

2065
01:26:07,370 --> 01:26:05,850
I mean it's strange enough to consider

2066
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:07,380
that you have one unknown type of

2067
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:08,970
species with a Bigfoot running around

2068
01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:11,250
for years and years how can we have

2069
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:13,350
multiple species are these things

2070
01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:15,890
running around and then you look into

2071
01:26:20,030 --> 01:26:18,510
the dark man reports that the

2072
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,040
Thunderbird reports on getting these

2073
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:22,320
giant bird sightings for years and years

2074
01:26:27,230 --> 01:26:25,040
the black panther report which

2075
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:27,240
out-of-place animals have been seen in

2076
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:28,800
pennsylvania´s at other parts of the

2077
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:30,330
country and around the world same thing

2078
01:26:34,910 --> 01:26:32,730
they quite often show up in areas where

2079
01:26:37,190 --> 01:26:34,920
there's other phenomena going on Bigfoot

2080
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:37,200
activity going on the strange thing is

2081
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:39,090
over the years around the country there

2082
01:26:43,250 --> 01:26:40,800
been incidents where more than one

2083
01:26:45,380 --> 01:26:43,260
cryptid has been seen together at the

2084
01:26:46,910 --> 01:26:45,390
same time in place which a lot of people

2085
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:46,920
don't know about or don't want to talk

2086
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:49,620
about the phenomena I said years ago is

2087
01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:54,450
so strange so what do you think is going

2088
01:26:58,730 --> 01:26:56,490
on Stan I mean are we dealing with a

2089
01:27:01,670 --> 01:26:58,740
purely nuts-and-bolts thing or is there

2090
01:27:03,610 --> 01:27:01,680
some sort of co-creative process as Greg

2091
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:03,620
Bishop would say is are we somehow

2092
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:07,530
helping manifest the the quality of

2093
01:27:14,180 --> 01:27:09,840
these of these apparitions or these

2094
01:27:15,710 --> 01:27:14,190
appearances I don't I'm not so sure the

2095
01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:15,720
government has all the answers I think

2096
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:18,030
they're interested from what I what I've

2097
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:19,950
seen in some cases I've been involved in

2098
01:27:23,390 --> 01:27:22,110
whatever from others that I think that

2099
01:27:27,620 --> 01:27:23,400
government has an interest both in the

2100
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:27,630
Bigfoot and the UFO phenomena and long

2101
01:27:32,930 --> 01:27:30,480
ago I began to notice at one

2102
01:27:35,210 --> 01:27:32,940
very low level close range UFO

2103
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:35,220
encounters and many encounters with

2104
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:37,050
cryptids Bigfoot and other strange

2105
01:27:42,380 --> 01:27:39,570
creatures commonly occur in the vicinity

2106
01:27:44,650 --> 01:27:42,390
of high energy sources they occur around

2107
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:44,660
power plants high-tension power lines

2108
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:48,570
gas wells radio towers reservoirs

2109
01:27:53,330 --> 01:27:51,210
railroad tracks this is a very common

2110
01:27:55,970 --> 01:27:53,340
thing I have no doubt there's an energy

2111
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:55,980
connection to this phenomena it seems as

2112
01:27:59,300 --> 01:27:57,510
though we're dealing with phenomena

2113
01:28:01,490 --> 01:27:59,310
there's a physical and a non-physical

2114
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:01,500
component to it that under certain

2115
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:03,330
conditions which we don't know exactly

2116
01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:05,489
what they are they seem to come into our

2117
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:07,380
physical reality they can look

2118
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:09,570
physically solid sometimes they don't

2119
01:28:14,180 --> 01:28:12,330
however and they can leave evidence and

2120
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:14,190
they're gone they come and they go which

2121
01:28:19,700 --> 01:28:17,970
is why there's no bodies and I'm not the

2122
01:28:21,229 --> 01:28:19,710
only researchers been flying some of

2123
01:28:23,690 --> 01:28:21,239
this over the years I know many other

2124
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:23,700
people uh Nick Redford and when the more

2125
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:26,010
than Alan and others of that cases like

2126
01:28:31,070 --> 01:28:28,710
this or many other ones who have had

2127
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:31,080
taste like this as well and it may be

2128
01:28:36,260 --> 01:28:33,450
much more common we realized it's such a

2129
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:36,270
strange phenomenon and so the incidence

2130
01:28:40,430 --> 01:28:38,730
is no strange that some researchers I

2131
01:28:41,870 --> 01:28:40,440
know told me years ago they were

2132
01:28:44,180 --> 01:28:41,880
reluctant to publish it because they'd

2133
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:44,190
want to be laughed at and others or just

2134
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:46,710
rather pretend it doesn't exist my

2135
01:28:51,229 --> 01:28:48,930
position as a researcher is I don't have

2136
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:51,239
the answers but this is what is showing

2137
01:28:55,820 --> 01:28:53,130
up and it's something that should be

2138
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:55,830
looked into much more seriously well

2139
01:29:00,410 --> 01:28:57,480
that you kind of opened up in a whole

2140
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:00,420
nother question here that rather Eric

2141
01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:03,630
already has and people seen Bigfoot yeah

2142
01:29:08,450 --> 01:29:06,450
he's wondering if any familiarity with

2143
01:29:09,790 --> 01:29:08,460
Bigfoot enthusiasts reveals the

2144
01:29:12,740 --> 01:29:09,800
depressing fact that worthless

2145
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:12,750
photographic evidence is routinely cited

2146
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:14,310
as exciting proof of Bigfoot's existence

2147
01:29:19,340 --> 01:29:16,410
and he's wandering the dead do Bigfoot

2148
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:19,350
look like blob squatches are blurry to

2149
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why are there no really good quality

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still photographs so Bigfoot there very

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very few I guess we can say the same

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thing Chris about UFOs and we're gonna

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researcher so Chris asked the question

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of you with regard to the lack of clear

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photos a Bigfoot but I think in large

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part we could also mention UFOs because

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they're very very few clear pictures of

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UFOs and unfortunately a large portion

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of those are not real what's going on

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well I agree with you 100% and it's a

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very interesting question and I can tell

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you I do receive many photographs and

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game cam pictures and videos of alleged

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UFOs and even cryptids on occasion and

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you're correct you know unfortunately a

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lot of people are reputable but

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unfortunately a lot of the pictures

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basically are not going to prove a thing

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so it could be something interesting on

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it but they don't show enough detail I

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mean I've seen some very interesting

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game camp pictures where you can see

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very long hair hanging off a body but

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there's not enough detail to be sure

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what it was and we do get UFO pictures

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in we get some interesting UFO pictures

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into his videos taken of an object last

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year which we did a lot of analysis on

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it and we don't know what it is but it's

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just not the be totally certain of it

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but a couple things one the reason my

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feeling is a reason there's a lack of

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really good pictures as one a lot of

2315
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this is a short-lived phenomena with

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UFOs it may be a matter of seconds even

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cryptids with Bigfoot they've run out

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calmly in front of people's cars well it

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was a matter of seconds that people are

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so shocked when they see it wood and

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wood UFOs the same thing when these

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low-level sighting they're so shocked by

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what they're seeing they're sitting

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there studying looking these things

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aren't supposed to exist and people tell

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me all the time I was even thinking

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about grabbing my camera I couldn't

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believe what I was seeing

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then okay anyhow as a as I brought up

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earlier some people have attempted to

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take pictures with their cell phones and

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digital cameras and interestingly the

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camera has died out at that time

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malfunction I talked to you about the

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one where the woman had the object

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covering over route 30 she tried to take

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a picture or iPhone I worked perfectly

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well before and after it would not let

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her go and go to photo mode I think it

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was two years ago this is up in the

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mountains up towards Donegal early

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morning ten o'clock in the morning a

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beautiful morning this fellas sent me

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there by his window drinking a cup of

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coffee his dogs lying there and all of a

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sudden it got completely dark and he

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thought of that strange is like there's

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no rain like what's causing everything

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get dark so he immediately got up

2350
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grabbed this fully charged camera walked

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out the door his dog which always falls

2352
01:38:05,620 --> 01:38:03,110
him refused to go outside the guy walked

2353
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outside in his yard and five hundred

2354
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feet above them is his huge solid black

2355
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triangular object is hovering there

2356
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making no sound

2357
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he immediately grabs his camera his

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phone to grab a picture he immediately

2359
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discharged a lot of all its power that

2360
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is something I hear about more and more

2361
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in recent years there have been and I

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know it's not just in Pennsylvania and

2363
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this is a phenomena that those in a

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paranormal field commonly talk about

2365
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power loss with their cameras as well

2366
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but so there is a number of different

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reasons why that people aren't able to

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come up with pictures the phenomena is

2369
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short-lived in some cases in other cases

2370
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people are so amazing what they're

2371
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seeing to study and phenomena I'm not

2372
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thinking about taking a picture and in

2373
01:38:56,770 --> 01:38:54,260
some cases people have attempted to take

2374
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pictures and their equipment malfunction

2375
01:39:02,290 --> 01:38:59,540
but on occasion we have gotten some

2376
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:02,300
pretty good photographs in but it's not

2377
01:39:06,790 --> 01:39:04,730
enough to say where these things are who

2378
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knows extraterrestrial interdimensional

2379
01:39:10,030 --> 01:39:07,699
time travelers

2380
01:39:12,580 --> 01:39:10,040
may many theories out there but I'm not

2381
01:39:13,569 --> 01:39:12,590
so sure that any of us know for sure and

2382
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I said years ago

2383
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:15,980
there's more than one origin for the

2384
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category of UFOs and the point to

2385
01:39:23,590 --> 01:39:20,530
mention here too is in the early days of

2386
01:39:25,450 --> 01:39:23,600
the UFO field we had lots of stories

2387
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:25,460
about so-called the electromagnetic

2388
01:39:33,310 --> 01:39:28,489
effects where are you pho or UFO flies

2389
01:39:35,740 --> 01:39:33,320
overhead in the car stops so this is not

2390
01:39:37,570 --> 01:39:35,750
unusual it's an ongoing thing and also

2391
01:39:39,670 --> 01:39:37,580
the problem is here in addition to being

2392
01:39:42,250 --> 01:39:39,680
nervous if you see something strange and

2393
01:39:45,790 --> 01:39:42,260
we all have these great cameras now on

2394
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our pockets or purses we have iPhones we

2395
01:39:50,350 --> 01:39:47,090
have Samsung which makes very good

2396
01:39:54,700 --> 01:39:50,360
cameras and we have all this but then

2397
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:54,710
most people who are listening even with

2398
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:56,330
all those great cameras we have another

2399
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:00,080
problem when people are say walking on

2400
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the street and they are busy looking

2401
01:40:09,670 --> 01:40:07,070
down at their smartphones they're not

2402
01:40:11,050 --> 01:40:09,680
looking straight ahead or we hope they

2403
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:11,060
are if they're crossing the street

2404
01:40:17,140 --> 01:40:13,610
they're certainly not looking up to see

2405
01:40:19,780 --> 01:40:17,150
what could be going on affair so that's

2406
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:19,790
unfortunate but it also means a lot of

2407
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opportunities might be lost my website

2408
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scroll back through old cases you know I

2409
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:32,150
remember many years ago people used to

2410
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:33,890
say to me about UFO sightings well how

2411
01:40:38,890 --> 01:40:36,170
come people only see these things over

2412
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rural areas well they don't there are

2413
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:41,180
multitudes of sightings over populated

2414
01:40:45,970 --> 01:40:42,770
areas here in Pennsylvania the big

2415
01:40:47,770 --> 01:40:45,980
cities Harrisburg Philadelphia on the

2416
01:40:50,140 --> 01:40:47,780
Pennsylvania Turnpike Pittsburgh I

2417
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:50,150
believe was November of last year a

2418
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:51,770
business man was coming out of his

2419
01:40:56,050 --> 01:40:53,810
office to downtown Pittsburgh he was

2420
01:40:58,420 --> 01:40:56,060
near the Mon River he happened to look

2421
01:41:01,120 --> 01:40:58,430
up and just for a few seconds he sees

2422
01:41:04,570 --> 01:41:01,130
his object falling straight down from

2423
01:41:06,190 --> 01:41:04,580
the sky and it looks like it actually

2424
01:41:08,530 --> 01:41:06,200
went into the Mon River and he captured

2425
01:41:09,820 --> 01:41:08,540
a few seconds of video and got some

2426
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:09,830
pretty good pictures or whatever this

2427
01:41:17,140 --> 01:41:14,560
thing was what about in terms of UFOs

2428
01:41:20,110 --> 01:41:17,150
what do you think are the best UFO

2429
01:41:22,330 --> 01:41:20,120
photos you've seen oh my gosh you know

2430
01:41:25,709 --> 01:41:22,340
over the years you know I've seen all

2431
01:41:28,630 --> 01:41:25,719
the classic photographs have been taken

2432
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:28,640
there some have been taken locally here

2433
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:29,600
that I looked at

2434
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:31,730
we investigator first hand which I

2435
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:33,890
consider them to be good ones they're

2436
01:41:38,890 --> 01:41:35,920
not pictures or that are widely known

2437
01:41:41,980 --> 01:41:38,900
but cases we investigate over the years

2438
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,990
and some of those I consider be very

2439
01:41:44,830 --> 01:41:42,800
very good

2440
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:44,840
are they proof of their extraterrestrial

2441
01:41:49,330 --> 01:41:47,450
definitely not or interdimensional or

2442
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:49,340
whatever they might be but they're

2443
01:41:54,940 --> 01:41:51,290
indications or something we we were not

2444
01:41:56,290 --> 01:41:54,950
able to identify easily and and I know

2445
01:41:58,510 --> 01:41:56,300
there's there's a lot of good pictures

2446
01:42:00,910 --> 01:41:58,520
out there but you're correct a lot of

2447
01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:00,920
the pictures we see and I've got some in

2448
01:42:05,230 --> 01:42:04,040
even very reasonably they're just

2449
01:42:07,390 --> 01:42:05,240
nothing that's going to be able to

2450
01:42:08,890 --> 01:42:07,400
identify for sure or give us any really

2451
01:42:11,290 --> 01:42:08,900
good indicator what we're dealing with

2452
01:42:13,090 --> 01:42:11,300
and the digital cameras today you know

2453
01:42:14,890 --> 01:42:13,100
because the electronic circuitry in them

2454
01:42:17,140 --> 01:42:14,900
they're not designed really to take

2455
01:42:19,180 --> 01:42:17,150
photographs at night and try to focus on

2456
01:42:21,220 --> 01:42:19,190
an image and because what sonic

2457
01:42:23,380 --> 01:42:21,230
circuitry of them they can produce all

2458
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:23,390
kinds of false images and some of the

2459
01:42:27,340 --> 01:42:25,370
false images look very very strange

2460
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:27,350
indeed and they're completely different

2461
01:42:31,630 --> 01:42:29,570
when people actually saw so you've got

2462
01:42:33,250 --> 01:42:31,640
to really look at these reports and you

2463
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:33,260
got to have a good analyst that really

2464
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:35,450
has the knowledge how to really figure

2465
01:42:40,510 --> 01:42:36,800
out what exactly we're seeing in the

2466
01:42:44,230 --> 01:42:40,520
pictures do you find much of cases of

2467
01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:44,240
fakery believe it or not as I mentioned

2468
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:45,710
you know my fault lines went up mrs.

2469
01:42:52,090 --> 01:42:48,800
1969 I've dealt with thousands of people

2470
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:52,100
and it's very very rare that we have a

2471
01:42:58,150 --> 01:42:55,520
really overt hoax case and when those

2472
01:43:00,340 --> 01:42:58,160
generally happened for example back in

2473
01:43:02,530 --> 01:43:00,350
the 73 with that UFO big foot wave and

2474
01:43:04,630 --> 01:43:02,540
there was a lot of news coverage after

2475
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,640
the story began to come out we had been

2476
01:43:09,220 --> 01:43:07,040
having reports for weeks before it was

2477
01:43:11,770 --> 01:43:09,230
any publicity on it but when they came

2478
01:43:14,650 --> 01:43:11,780
out yeah some local kids were cutting

2479
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:14,660
her her wooden wooden footprints out

2480
01:43:20,290 --> 01:43:17,930
making tracks very very easy to tell the

2481
01:43:23,410 --> 01:43:20,300
difference between a fabricated track

2482
01:43:25,690 --> 01:43:23,420
and if something is legitimate and then

2483
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:25,700
again we were beyond and other

2484
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:27,890
investigations and people were calling

2485
01:43:32,890 --> 01:43:29,870
in and seeing strange footprints some of

2486
01:43:35,260 --> 01:43:32,900
them were huge and very odd-looking but

2487
01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:35,270
we were determined on what they were it

2488
01:43:38,970 --> 01:43:36,800
was due to the change in the weather

2489
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:38,980
conditions the temperature

2490
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:42,850
conditions for example we found some we

2491
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:45,090
found that a berry in the area the the

2492
01:43:51,570 --> 01:43:47,710
bakflip would meet up with the right

2493
01:43:54,270 --> 01:43:51,580
foot it would freeze and fuse together

2494
01:43:56,940 --> 01:43:54,280
then it would melt and expand and look

2495
01:43:58,350 --> 01:43:56,950
like huge giant footprints so there's a

2496
01:44:00,660 --> 01:43:58,360
lot of things that if you're out there

2497
01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:00,670
really do an investigation a lot of

2498
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:03,340
things look very strange but sometimes

2499
01:44:09,060 --> 01:44:05,440
there are explanations for them we

2500
01:44:11,700 --> 01:44:09,070
actually see very few hoaxes most of

2501
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:11,710
them are very very easily determined

2502
01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:13,360
very quickly so we don't have to spend a

2503
01:44:18,990 --> 01:44:16,060
lot of time on them well I hope we'll

2504
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:19,000
start finding more things out there to

2505
01:44:23,940 --> 01:44:21,850
get us to an endgame let me ask you a

2506
01:44:25,620 --> 01:44:23,950
question that's a little outside of

2507
01:44:27,570 --> 01:44:25,630
where we've been going which is mostly

2508
01:44:29,490 --> 01:44:27,580
case history sightings here sightings

2509
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:29,500
there and something that will extend to

2510
01:44:35,370 --> 01:44:31,690
our next segment and that's about the

2511
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:35,380
witnesses themselves have you guys had

2512
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:39,280
the chance at all to profile the people

2513
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:41,020
who tend to see these things whether any

2514
01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:45,250
particular ethnic category age category

2515
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:49,120
or anything else might be more prevalent

2516
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,239
in terms of paranormal events very

2517
01:44:58,350 --> 01:44:54,880
interesting thing later this month we'll

2518
01:45:01,290 --> 01:44:58,360
be completing 12 consecutive years of

2519
01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:01,300
the power cast we'll continue with the

2520
01:45:06,150 --> 01:45:03,670
greatest guests ever Jerome Clark will

2521
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:06,160
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2522
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about his new article 414 times about

2523
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the 1897 airship mystery Nick Redfern

2524
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has another book out we'll be talking to

2525
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:17,650
him a lot more coming Stan Gordon gene

2526
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Steinberg Chris O'Brien you're in a

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2567
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2569
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2570
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2571
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2575
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[Applause]

2585
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:49,660
welcome back into the para cast the gold

2586
01:48:02,320 --> 01:47:54,010
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2587
01:48:06,660 --> 01:48:02,330
here's Jane Steinberg Stan Gordon is

2588
01:48:09,310 --> 01:48:06,670
with us and a KY wire to focus on the

2589
01:48:12,970 --> 01:48:09,320
personal aspects of these cases whether

2590
01:48:15,310 --> 01:48:12,980
the profile of the witness gives us any

2591
01:48:18,669 --> 01:48:15,320
clues as to who might be more

2592
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:18,679
susceptible to seeing something no

2593
01:48:23,620 --> 01:48:21,650
actually just thinking back and the

2594
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:23,630
multitude of witnesses I've talked to

2595
01:48:29,470 --> 01:48:26,449
and again they range from young children

2596
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:29,480
you know parents mothers fathers males

2597
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:32,170
females of all different backgrounds

2598
01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:35,090
many people I interviewed were what I

2599
01:48:39,370 --> 01:48:36,710
would consult because consider

2600
01:48:41,290 --> 01:48:39,380
professionals police officers municipal

2601
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:41,300
police state police I've interviewed

2602
01:48:46,379 --> 01:48:44,210
commercial pilots corporate pilots

2603
01:48:50,530 --> 01:48:46,389
private power to have encountered UFOs

2604
01:48:53,859 --> 01:48:50,540
I've talked to farmers and lawyers and

2605
01:48:57,340 --> 01:48:53,869
doctors and nurses and CEOs and and

2606
01:48:59,800 --> 01:48:57,350
people who are involved in our and

2607
01:49:01,810 --> 01:48:59,810
lawyers and people from all walks of

2608
01:49:04,209 --> 01:49:01,820
life who have seen these things and once

2609
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:04,219
again the the main thing that stands out

2610
01:49:07,959 --> 01:49:06,530
is none of these people really want

2611
01:49:11,470 --> 01:49:07,969
anybody to know they saw these things

2612
01:49:13,209 --> 01:49:11,480
and it's just like you know recently I

2613
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:13,219
dealt with a police officer I had a very

2614
01:49:18,669 --> 01:49:15,290
bizarre encounter with a very bizarre

2615
01:49:20,830 --> 01:49:18,679
creature and he contacted me soon after

2616
01:49:22,359 --> 01:49:20,840
he got off of patrol but he didn't want

2617
01:49:24,490 --> 01:49:22,369
to make a report on it and I've been

2618
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:24,500
very careful not to identify you know

2619
01:49:27,879 --> 01:49:26,000
where it happened and who he was because

2620
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:27,889
he doesn't want to be identified he has

2621
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:29,840
nothing to gain by this why would you

2622
01:49:34,810 --> 01:49:31,850
make a picture story and this is what I

2623
01:49:38,290 --> 01:49:34,820
find year after year from so many

2624
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:38,300
different people who have called me from

2625
01:49:43,810 --> 01:49:40,159
all types of backgrounds and all kind of

2626
01:49:45,580 --> 01:49:43,820
experiences well certainly it's

2627
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:45,590
something we have to continue to look at

2628
01:49:50,620 --> 01:49:48,110
in terms of all these mysteries what we

2629
01:49:52,209 --> 01:49:50,630
can learn now I'm going to get into

2630
01:49:53,950 --> 01:49:52,219
something else here which we mentioned

2631
01:49:56,620 --> 01:49:53,960
earlier about people tending to take

2632
01:49:58,450 --> 01:49:56,630
things more seriously now that the media

2633
01:50:02,440 --> 01:49:58,460
might be taking things more serious

2634
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:02,450
sleeeeep what do we see going on in

2635
01:50:07,630 --> 01:50:04,489
terms of that is there some kind of

2636
01:50:10,510 --> 01:50:07,640
disclosure it might be happening you

2637
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:10,520
know I I would love to see it happen i

2638
01:50:16,660 --> 01:50:13,010
and i and i hope maybe someday in my

2639
01:50:18,610 --> 01:50:16,670
lifetime it will but personally from

2640
01:50:20,410 --> 01:50:18,620
what and all the events that I've dealt

2641
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:20,420
with over the years you know I've heard

2642
01:50:24,220 --> 01:50:22,400
about the disclosure I've heard over

2643
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:24,230
many many years that different things

2644
01:50:28,270 --> 01:50:26,450
were going to happen different times if

2645
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:28,280
my memory serves me right I think it was

2646
01:50:33,610 --> 01:50:32,090
around 1975 I was I was in close friend

2647
01:50:34,990 --> 01:50:33,620
with Leonard Stringfield I'm sure you

2648
01:50:38,290 --> 01:50:35,000
know the name he was basically a father

2649
01:50:40,300 --> 01:50:38,300
of UFO crash retrievals and Len had a

2650
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:40,310
lot of very good contacts

2651
01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:44,410
apparently with in military sources and

2652
01:50:49,180 --> 01:50:46,910
it was there was pretty good information

2653
01:50:53,410 --> 01:50:49,190
beginning to surface that there was

2654
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:53,420
about to be some major effort to begin

2655
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:55,370
to condition the public that a fact that

2656
01:51:00,490 --> 01:50:58,850
UFOs were real and from from what I

2657
01:51:01,810 --> 01:51:00,500
remember they are talking about there

2658
01:51:04,090 --> 01:51:01,820
would be some books come out will be

2659
01:51:07,570 --> 01:51:04,100
some movies coming out that would have

2660
01:51:09,970 --> 01:51:07,580
this is a subject there would be other

2661
01:51:11,850 --> 01:51:09,980
things that were going to be done and it

2662
01:51:14,860 --> 01:51:11,860
was even publicized at the time and

2663
01:51:17,410 --> 01:51:14,870
nothing major happened but I believe at

2664
01:51:19,740 --> 01:51:17,420
that time period is when we began to see

2665
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:19,750
some interesting books being published

2666
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:22,010
there were some movies that came out

2667
01:51:27,010 --> 01:51:24,050
that has a et theme to them

2668
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:27,020
so maybe suddenly the publicans begin to

2669
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:29,570
be began to be conditioned to this

2670
01:51:36,370 --> 01:51:34,010
possibility again I hope I hope the day

2671
01:51:39,250 --> 01:51:36,380
will come but personally unless there's

2672
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:39,260
some type of major major huge UFO

2673
01:51:44,050 --> 01:51:42,290
incident that is viewed by many people

2674
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:44,060
in the media gets are very quickly to

2675
01:51:49,570 --> 01:51:47,330
confirm it you know that may be the way

2676
01:51:51,340 --> 01:51:49,580
it's going to happen other than that it

2677
01:51:52,990 --> 01:51:51,350
might be I think it's going to be quite

2678
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:53,000
a while till we really see any

2679
01:51:55,180 --> 01:51:54,770
definitive proof as to what we're

2680
01:51:59,709 --> 01:51:55,190
dealing with

2681
01:52:02,590 --> 01:51:59,719
and personally my feeling is that the

2682
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:02,600
government has always been involved in

2683
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:04,400
UFO investigations we know of course

2684
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:07,760
they started back going back to 1947 it

2685
01:52:11,310 --> 01:52:09,770
was a project sign and project grudge

2686
01:52:13,770 --> 01:52:11,320
apostrophe book

2687
01:52:15,330 --> 01:52:13,780
and Bluebook continued when it

2688
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:15,340
officially closed down and chain Ori of

2689
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:19,210
1970 and we are told at that time that

2690
01:52:26,370 --> 01:52:22,330
that was the end or public UFO

2691
01:52:28,710 --> 01:52:26,380
investigations and but over the years

2692
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:28,720
there was strong indication that there

2693
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:31,270
were other projects that were ongoing I

2694
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:33,250
believe they've always been ongoing we

2695
01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:34,930
learned about Project loon Dussel

2696
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:38,500
operation blue fly and I believe the

2697
01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:40,030
government is very very interested in

2698
01:52:46,140 --> 01:52:41,980
these reports but it's a worldwide

2699
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:46,150
phenomena personally I think that they

2700
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,650
know there's something out there and

2701
01:52:51,420 --> 01:52:49,360
they do not have all the answers

2702
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:51,430
themselves and they're trying to figure

2703
01:52:55,890 --> 01:52:53,050
it out and they're not in control

2704
01:52:58,380 --> 01:52:55,900
whatever it is and I've seen indication

2705
01:52:59,730 --> 01:52:58,390
over the years that also that the

2706
01:53:02,580 --> 01:52:59,740
government has an interest in the

2707
01:53:04,290 --> 01:53:02,590
Bigfoot phenomena as well and you know

2708
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:04,300
once again what I've been learning over

2709
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:06,490
the years as we talked a little bit

2710
01:53:12,150 --> 01:53:09,130
about some of these different phenomena

2711
01:53:16,290 --> 01:53:12,160
today it's much deeper than anybody

2712
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:16,300
realizes it's much more unusual and I

2713
01:53:19,590 --> 01:53:18,250
think the government's trying to figure

2714
01:53:22,770 --> 01:53:19,600
out themselves of what it is that we're

2715
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:22,780
dealing with so after 70 years they

2716
01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:25,570
happen to clue I think they know a lot

2717
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:27,520
more than they're telling us but again I

2718
01:53:31,620 --> 01:53:29,890
can only surmise I just think if they're

2719
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:31,630
finding like I'm finding that this

2720
01:53:36,690 --> 01:53:34,930
phenomena is much more unusual much more

2721
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:36,700
involved a much deeper than any of us

2722
01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:38,410
realize and understand at this point

2723
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:40,450
this may be so far beyond our present

2724
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:42,640
scientific understanding we're going to

2725
01:53:47,340 --> 01:53:45,280
theorize about it we're seeing clues but

2726
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:47,350
I'm not so sure anybody really has the

2727
01:53:52,110 --> 01:53:49,900
answers themselves I am more and more

2728
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:52,120
convinced that a lot of this phenomena

2729
01:53:56,250 --> 01:53:54,130
has a physical and a nonsensical

2730
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,260
component to it that there's an energy

2731
01:54:03,450 --> 01:53:58,560
connection to it and that these things

2732
01:54:05,490 --> 01:54:03,460
you know can maybe take it it's hard as

2733
01:54:08,130 --> 01:54:05,500
it is for me to say this but we may be

2734
01:54:11,010 --> 01:54:08,140
doing a phenomena that has a capability

2735
01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:11,020
or various forms Nick Redfern just came

2736
01:54:14,610 --> 01:54:12,760
out with a book about this several

2737
01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:14,620
months ago others have been talking

2738
01:54:20,730 --> 01:54:18,340
about it for years and it's very very

2739
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:20,740
strange but when you talk to so many

2740
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:22,090
people who'll tell about their

2741
01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:23,920
first-hand encounters and I've heard

2742
01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:24,430
about these

2743
01:54:27,870 --> 01:54:25,840
all over the country and around the

2744
01:54:30,900 --> 01:54:27,880
world for years and years but they were

2745
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:30,910
so strange that I know many of the

2746
01:54:34,710 --> 01:54:32,980
Romanian investigators what he publishes

2747
01:54:36,780 --> 01:54:34,720
because they want to be left at but

2748
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:36,790
others are aware of it and I've noticed

2749
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:39,970
in more recent years that more and more

2750
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:42,250
people in a Bigfoot field are beginning

2751
01:54:46,710 --> 01:54:44,800
to question what they know about it

2752
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:46,720
they're beginning to realize that there

2753
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:48,250
may be more to this than meets the eye

2754
01:54:52,530 --> 01:54:51,040
that it may be much stranger and I hear

2755
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:52,540
from a lot of people in Bigfoot field

2756
01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:54,970
who are looking into this and I was one

2757
01:55:00,210 --> 01:54:57,280
of the speakers at the first up cryptid

2758
01:55:01,890 --> 01:55:00,220
con conference in Kentucky last year and

2759
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:01,900
for what I understand I think almost

2760
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,170
every Bigfoot speaker investigator that

2761
01:55:10,350 --> 01:55:07,360
talked about Bigfoot was talking about

2762
01:55:12,570 --> 01:55:10,360
some possibility of some of these being

2763
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:12,580
interdimensional so it's something now

2764
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:14,650
that is beginning to catch the attention

2765
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:17,130
of many people from around the country

2766
01:55:21,390 --> 01:55:19,810
well I sure hope so but do you think

2767
01:55:24,660 --> 01:55:21,400
there's ever gonna be something called

2768
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:24,670
UFO disclosure or is it something that's

2769
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:30,610
going to happen independently over the

2770
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:32,410
years and yeah I know there's a lot of

2771
01:55:36,510 --> 01:55:34,090
great efforts to get the information out

2772
01:55:39,870 --> 01:55:36,520
and I hope someday it does but I think

2773
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:39,880
it's going to take a huge major national

2774
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:42,850
event that is covered strongly by the

2775
01:55:47,970 --> 01:55:46,450
media to confirm it very quickly or you

2776
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:47,980
know as we're rumors that there's

2777
01:55:53,010 --> 01:55:50,260
physical evidence out there there's

2778
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:53,020
physical residues that are out there

2779
01:55:57,690 --> 01:55:55,330
that are beyond our scientific

2780
01:56:00,030 --> 01:55:57,700
understanding at this point you know if

2781
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:00,040
that really exists and it comes out

2782
01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:01,930
publicly and we can see the scientific

2783
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:04,300
data and we can find that kind of proof

2784
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:06,250
in that evidence then that might be

2785
01:56:10,110 --> 01:56:08,050
something that will reveal all this as

2786
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:10,120
well I mean I've talked to many many

2787
01:56:13,770 --> 01:56:11,890
people investigators and other people

2788
01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:13,780
over the years you know who seem to have

2789
01:56:18,150 --> 01:56:14,950
knowledge of the fact that our

2790
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:18,160
government did recover UFO materials and

2791
01:56:23,610 --> 01:56:20,650
allegedly some bodies going back to the

2792
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:23,620
40s and 50s and 60s and some of these

2793
01:56:28,260 --> 01:56:25,930
appear to be pretty credible people to

2794
01:56:31,710 --> 01:56:28,270
talk to lenin myself and others over the

2795
01:56:33,540 --> 01:56:31,720
years and again i believe that there may

2796
01:56:35,260 --> 01:56:33,550
be more than one origin to the unknown

2797
01:56:37,020 --> 01:56:35,270
category of UFOs

2798
01:56:40,630 --> 01:56:37,030
we may be dealing with more than one

2799
01:56:44,350 --> 01:56:40,640
phenomena here well what do you think of

2800
01:56:47,050 --> 01:56:44,360
things like well perhaps collective

2801
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:47,060
unconscious as a possible cause of some

2802
01:56:51,550 --> 01:56:49,250
things which means we kind of help

2803
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create the effect will have Stan's

2804
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2924
02:02:08,459 --> 02:02:05,440
collective unconscious or what Greg

2925
02:02:11,399 --> 02:02:08,469
Bishop talks about as a co-creation

2926
02:02:14,189 --> 02:02:11,409
effect that we're somehow partly

2927
02:02:15,810 --> 02:02:14,199
creating the UFO effect I guess you know

2928
02:02:18,870 --> 02:02:15,820
there may be theories and explanations

2929
02:02:21,540 --> 02:02:18,880
that may explain certain individual

2930
02:02:22,799 --> 02:02:21,550
cases but when I look at is the

2931
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:22,809
multitudes of people I've interviewed

2932
02:02:26,910 --> 02:02:24,730
the different patterns we've seen over

2933
02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:26,920
the years the similarity of details in

2934
02:02:30,060 --> 02:02:28,630
the reports and let me tell you about

2935
02:02:32,399 --> 02:02:30,070
the sighting it happened recently with

2936
02:02:34,439 --> 02:02:32,409
his police officer like what is it this

2937
02:02:35,879 --> 02:02:34,449
guy saw and then it was a follow-up

2938
02:02:37,979 --> 02:02:35,889
witness to something very similar

2939
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:37,989
several weeks later who knew nothing

2940
02:02:41,580 --> 02:02:39,610
about the other report that person

2941
02:02:44,399 --> 02:02:41,590
didn't have a computer and this has

2942
02:02:45,839 --> 02:02:44,409
happened in late August of last year

2943
02:02:48,479 --> 02:02:45,849
this was in Westmoreland County

2944
02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:48,489
Pennsylvania in southwest part of the

2945
02:02:53,250 --> 02:02:51,550
state the officers on patrol in a wooded

2946
02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:53,260
area that he frequently patrolled he

2947
02:02:57,750 --> 02:02:55,420
knew the area pretty well as he's riding

2948
02:03:00,240 --> 02:02:57,760
down the road that evening he notices

2949
02:03:02,729 --> 02:03:00,250
what appears to be a very bold white

2950
02:03:04,529 --> 02:03:02,739
light low to the ground and he is pretty

2951
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:04,539
unusual because he doesn't remember any

2952
02:03:08,339 --> 02:03:06,610
artificial lighting out there so he gets

2953
02:03:11,729 --> 02:03:08,349
a little closing stops his vehicle he's

2954
02:03:13,439 --> 02:03:11,739
watching and all of a sudden said he got

2955
02:03:14,879 --> 02:03:13,449
about 150 yards away from the round

2956
02:03:17,669 --> 02:03:14,889
lights and moved well closer he said

2957
02:03:20,339 --> 02:03:17,679
suddenly there's light suddenly rose up

2958
02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:20,349
or stood up from the ground then he

2959
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:21,760
observed something and he couldn't

2960
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:23,770
process he couldn't understand what he

2961
02:03:28,049 --> 02:03:25,690
saw so it was a weirdest thing he had

2962
02:03:30,959 --> 02:03:28,059
ever seen he said the ball light was

2963
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:30,969
actually the head of a very strange

2964
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:33,250
being the look could be about six feet

2965
02:03:38,939 --> 02:03:36,130
tall or a little power he said it was

2966
02:03:40,979 --> 02:03:38,949
very skeletal thin he was in the opinion

2967
02:03:43,319 --> 02:03:40,989
of the creature when he first saw it was

2968
02:03:45,540 --> 02:03:43,329
lying on its belly on the ground with

2969
02:03:47,970 --> 02:03:45,550
his head facing toward the road had then

2970
02:03:49,439 --> 02:03:47,980
stood up and that dark location he saw

2971
02:03:51,330 --> 02:03:49,449
the dull light from the glowing head

2972
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:51,340
illuminating the upper section of the

2973
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:53,090
body of the creature he

2974
02:03:57,910 --> 02:03:55,730
said as he wants to creature turn to the

2975
02:04:00,010 --> 02:03:57,920
right the doll lumination from the head

2976
02:04:02,350 --> 02:04:00,020
lit up the shoulders and the creature

2977
02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:02,360
turns and faced him that turned to the

2978
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:04,900
left and took off at an incredible speed

2979
02:04:10,209 --> 02:04:07,250
towards the location away from the road

2980
02:04:12,910 --> 02:04:10,219
as it moved off he could see its arm

2981
02:04:15,609 --> 02:04:12,920
swinging he indicated it took off at a

2982
02:04:17,620 --> 02:04:15,619
speed that you could only call abnormal

2983
02:04:20,350 --> 02:04:17,630
it was faster than anything you'd ever

2984
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:20,360
seen it was there and then it was gone

2985
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:22,670
the creature moved on two legs he

2986
02:04:26,439 --> 02:04:24,770
assumed it was two legs but he never

2987
02:04:28,990 --> 02:04:26,449
could see the lower section of the body

2988
02:04:30,609 --> 02:04:29,000
in the dark he also said that while I

2989
02:04:32,109 --> 02:04:30,619
was standing about six feet tall

2990
02:04:34,959 --> 02:04:32,119
the head was about eight to ten inches

2991
02:04:36,939 --> 02:04:34,969
in diameter and shaped like a bomb but

2992
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:36,949
he said the head could possibly been a

2993
02:04:41,439 --> 02:04:39,530
little more egg-shaped and the light of

2994
02:04:43,660 --> 02:04:41,449
medicine we distilled all white it

2995
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:43,670
illuminated the shoulders the top of the

2996
02:04:48,580 --> 02:04:46,250
chest and a section of the arms he could

2997
02:04:50,740 --> 02:04:48,590
not see the hands the chest book could

2998
02:04:52,359 --> 02:04:50,750
be about 18 inches across the waist

2999
02:04:54,879 --> 02:04:52,369
appeared to be small but the arms were

3000
02:04:57,339 --> 02:04:54,889
abnormally warmed the long limbs looked

3001
02:04:59,470 --> 02:04:57,349
skeletal with no muscle mass and the

3002
02:05:02,589 --> 02:04:59,480
court of the bodies that couldn't be a

3003
02:05:04,959 --> 02:05:02,599
dull greyish blue he could not see any

3004
02:05:06,669 --> 02:05:04,969
facial features he said he only saw this

3005
02:05:08,740 --> 02:05:06,679
thing for maybe about 10 seconds you got

3006
02:05:10,990 --> 02:05:08,750
a good look at him as the creature moves

3007
02:05:13,390 --> 02:05:11,000
off he pulled his patrol car up to the

3008
02:05:15,820 --> 02:05:13,400
area shined a spotlight around but he

3009
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:15,830
saw no evidence on the ground a few

3010
02:05:20,169 --> 02:05:18,110
weeks later I get a report for another

3011
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:20,179
witness of lived as the crow flies

3012
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:21,770
several miles away

3013
02:05:25,689 --> 02:05:23,840
this person had no computer and do

3014
02:05:27,220 --> 02:05:25,699
nothing about the other report had

3015
02:05:29,950 --> 02:05:27,230
toward a friend the other friend

3016
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:29,960
encouraged that person to call me this

3017
02:05:33,970 --> 02:05:31,610
is around the third week of September of

3018
02:05:36,220 --> 02:05:33,980
last year was walking out in the country

3019
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:36,230
was about Gustus getting dark when she

3020
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:38,210
saw this figure approaching from across

3021
02:05:42,220 --> 02:05:40,130
the road coming out of the woods and

3022
02:05:43,780 --> 02:05:42,230
this person said this thing was not

3023
02:05:46,390 --> 02:05:43,790
glowing but it was similar she said

3024
02:05:47,859 --> 02:05:46,400
about 14 inches foam it's scared to

3025
02:05:50,140 --> 02:05:47,869
person very badly they had was

3026
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:50,150
egg-shaped wider at the top and narrow

3027
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:52,159
at the bottom the color the creature was

3028
02:05:55,450 --> 02:05:53,810
odd and gave the impression he was

3029
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:55,460
sickly or in poor health

3030
02:05:59,050 --> 02:05:56,960
it looked could be kind of a very light

3031
02:06:01,390 --> 02:05:59,060
cream to ivory color couldn't see any

3032
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:01,400
facial features she said the shoulder

3033
02:06:05,399 --> 02:06:03,650
was about 20 inches across could not see

3034
02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:05,409
the arms the legs were straight

3035
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:08,260
then seem to be bent outwards seem to be

3036
02:06:14,279 --> 02:06:11,530
walk very unusually it began to approach

3037
02:06:16,949 --> 02:06:14,289
came with that about 35 feet of this

3038
02:06:18,779 --> 02:06:16,959
person as I recall it personally came

3039
02:06:21,149 --> 02:06:18,789
very frightened I ran to the house and

3040
02:06:23,370 --> 02:06:21,159
that was it but why would somebody make

3041
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:23,380
up a story like this why would people

3042
02:06:26,429 --> 02:06:25,360
make up a string what are these things

3043
02:06:29,279 --> 02:06:26,439
of where do they come from

3044
02:06:31,439 --> 02:06:29,289
let me bring something back to you that

3045
02:06:33,569 --> 02:06:31,449
we talked about two or three years ago

3046
02:06:36,299 --> 02:06:33,579
on the power cast and it's been brought

3047
02:06:37,679 --> 02:06:36,309
up again our forms where someone and

3048
02:06:40,259 --> 02:06:37,689
this is an article from the Pittsburgh

3049
02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:40,269
post-gazette that illustrates it claimed

3050
02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:43,900
to have identified the Kecksburg UFO as

3051
02:06:51,810 --> 02:06:48,070
a reentry vehicle from a spy satellite

3052
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:51,820
and the guy who I guess took credit for

3053
02:06:58,439 --> 02:06:54,400
it is a controversial character John

3054
02:07:00,810 --> 02:06:58,449
ventric former MUFON state director who

3055
02:07:03,259 --> 02:07:00,820
got drummed out because he posted some

3056
02:07:05,850 --> 02:07:03,269
stuff on Facebook that was humongously

3057
02:07:07,649 --> 02:07:05,860
offensive so what's your take on that

3058
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:07,659
you know for people who haven't heard

3059
02:07:12,989 --> 02:07:09,610
since the Kecksburg incident happened

3060
02:07:15,060 --> 02:07:12,999
December 1965 there have been many many

3061
02:07:16,979 --> 02:07:15,070
theories about what this object was and

3062
02:07:19,379 --> 02:07:16,989
I keep an open mind until we have

3063
02:07:21,239 --> 02:07:19,389
definitive proof series are good without

3064
02:07:24,330 --> 02:07:21,249
the evidence it doesn't prove a thing

3065
02:07:26,609 --> 02:07:24,340
and again whatever this object was going

3066
02:07:29,219 --> 02:07:26,619
back to that time see by multiples of

3067
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:29,229
people in the sky from Ontario Canada /

3068
02:07:33,509 --> 02:07:31,630
Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania whatever the

3069
02:07:35,429 --> 02:07:33,519
object was apparently fell into a wooded

3070
02:07:36,899 --> 02:07:35,439
ravine did a little village at Kecksburg

3071
02:07:39,479 --> 02:07:36,909
in Westmoreland County

3072
02:07:41,009 --> 02:07:39,489
I interviewed many many people who saw

3073
02:07:43,469 --> 02:07:41,019
this thing coming in from the Pittsburgh

3074
02:07:45,989 --> 02:07:43,479
area over where I live over the city of

3075
02:07:48,449 --> 02:07:45,999
Greensburg where it moved out roughly to

3076
02:07:50,759 --> 02:07:48,459
route 30 eastbound and had made a turn

3077
02:07:52,949 --> 02:07:50,769
to the south and it was seen by people

3078
02:07:54,330 --> 02:07:52,959
through all those little villages and it

3079
02:07:56,339 --> 02:07:54,340
continued out to the mountains of

3080
02:07:59,759 --> 02:07:56,349
Warrenville where people said it kind of

3081
02:08:02,489 --> 02:07:59,769
hesitated it made a turn began to track

3082
02:08:04,979 --> 02:08:02,499
back made another turn and dropped down

3083
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:04,989
into the woods the people's thoughts go

3084
02:08:09,479 --> 02:08:07,360
down said it did not come down at a high

3085
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:09,489
rate of speed that you had had with a

3086
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:12,130
reentry of space debris or a meteor

3087
02:08:16,020 --> 02:08:13,330
coming in

3088
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:16,030
it crashed through the trees knocked the

3089
02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:18,130
trees over damaged the trees but the

3090
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:20,020
object itself was basically completely

3091
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:22,480
intact on the ground because witnesses

3092
02:08:27,870 --> 02:08:25,810
who saw it go down some locals they soon

3093
02:08:29,970 --> 02:08:27,880
went down into the woods then later

3094
02:08:32,670 --> 02:08:29,980
volunteer firemen came in then the

3095
02:08:36,270 --> 02:08:32,680
military came in and they came across as

3096
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:36,280
large metallic acorn shaped object semi

3097
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:39,010
buried in the ground maybe 10 to 12 feet

3098
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:40,930
or more in length by the 8 to 10 feet in

3099
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:43,090
diameter kind of an off gold bronze

3100
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:45,280
color shaped like a big metallic acorn

3101
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:48,010
there were no see marks no rivets no

3102
02:08:53,580 --> 02:08:51,610
Walt marks no wings the fuselage on the

3103
02:08:55,380 --> 02:08:53,590
raised up part of that what you would

3104
02:08:57,570 --> 02:08:55,390
call the acorn and one witness caught a

3105
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:57,580
bumper were these markings that look

3106
02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,440
more like symbols raised up off the

3107
02:09:04,110 --> 02:09:01,840
surface luckily one of those witnesses

3108
02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:04,120
because his background the others with a

3109
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:06,880
few feet away from it he said this was

3110
02:09:11,250 --> 02:09:09,040
not Cyrillic it was not Russian or

3111
02:09:13,860 --> 02:09:11,260
Soviet at the time he said this was much

3112
02:09:15,540 --> 02:09:13,870
more unusual that closest he can recall

3113
02:09:18,150 --> 02:09:15,550
from memory was it would look similar to

3114
02:09:20,340 --> 02:09:18,160
ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics the

3115
02:09:23,010 --> 02:09:20,350
theories were the first one we heard was

3116
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:23,020
from an air force officer he told them

3117
02:09:27,450 --> 02:09:25,090
at the time there was a Gemini capsule

3118
02:09:28,590 --> 02:09:27,460
been expelled in the area so over the

3119
02:09:32,250 --> 02:09:28,600
years we've heard everything from

3120
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:32,260
meteorite to cosmos 96 pretty much

3121
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:34,510
that's been ruled out now another person

3122
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:36,970
told me he was certain it was a Soviet

3123
02:09:41,070 --> 02:09:38,650
ICBM 2 went out of control

3124
02:09:43,290 --> 02:09:41,080
another fellow told me he was a Weber

3125
02:09:46,110 --> 02:09:43,300
project where a projectile was fired

3126
02:09:48,540 --> 02:09:46,120
from a giant gun from a railroad car in

3127
02:09:49,890 --> 02:09:48,550
Canada I mean it just goes on and on or

3128
02:09:51,690 --> 02:09:49,900
on and then a more recent years of

3129
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:51,700
course a lot of people to the theory

3130
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:54,370
that it was the Nazi bell even though

3131
02:09:58,380 --> 02:09:56,170
I've never seen any strong evidence that

3132
02:09:59,700 --> 02:09:58,390
the Nazi Bell became a reality by

3133
02:10:01,950 --> 02:09:59,710
understanding was it was not a

3134
02:10:03,870 --> 02:10:01,960
maneuverable flying object from what

3135
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:03,880
I've been told and this thing whatever

3136
02:10:09,690 --> 02:10:06,010
it was apparently wasn't able to do that

3137
02:10:12,180 --> 02:10:09,700
and the 50th anniversary that you heard

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about the theory just talked about that

3139
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this was a key more to reentry vehicle

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3257
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:05,730
suddenly it's a landing vehicle well I'm

3258
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surprised though is that if it was true

3259
02:15:12,890 --> 02:15:11,130
could have been something that could

3260
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have been mentioned much earlier even if

3261
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it was a spy satellite you know after a

3262
02:15:20,180 --> 02:15:17,489
certain number of years it wouldn't even

3263
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matter in the last I believe in the last

3264
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year actually in the last three years

3265
02:15:27,500 --> 02:15:25,020
ago since the 15 anniversary I believe

3266
02:15:30,290 --> 02:15:27,510
in three different theories brought out

3267
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:30,300
now as to what Kecksburg was they're all

3268
02:15:35,209 --> 02:15:32,730
different they all have different amount

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02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:35,219
of information in them it just because

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on and on and on if you go on the

3271
02:15:41,540 --> 02:15:38,159
internet you can read many of these

3272
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:41,550
theories many many researchers and some

3273
02:15:44,270 --> 02:15:42,810
from the science community have looked

3274
02:15:46,580 --> 02:15:44,280
on this different these different

3275
02:15:48,050 --> 02:15:46,590
theories and pretty much most of them

3276
02:15:50,660 --> 02:15:48,060
don't believe it's connected with the

3277
02:15:53,479 --> 02:15:50,670
Kecksburg case and so once again I keep

3278
02:15:55,459 --> 02:15:53,489
an open mind well I did find it's

3279
02:15:57,740 --> 02:15:55,469
interesting which a lot of people don't

3280
02:15:59,660 --> 02:15:57,750
know and it's very detailed and would

3281
02:16:02,629 --> 02:15:59,670
take a long time to get into it but in

3282
02:16:05,060 --> 02:16:02,639
the last 20 years there's some very

3283
02:16:06,859 --> 02:16:05,070
interesting information that there may

3284
02:16:09,530 --> 02:16:06,869
have been someone or something inside of

3285
02:16:11,629 --> 02:16:09,540
the object if this is true and these

3286
02:16:14,319 --> 02:16:11,639
witnesses I interviewed over the years I

3287
02:16:16,939 --> 02:16:14,329
mean these people are extremely

3288
02:16:19,339 --> 02:16:16,949
reluctant to talk about it it wasn't

3289
02:16:20,839 --> 02:16:19,349
easy to get these people one of them

3290
02:16:22,910 --> 02:16:20,849
basically told me because it was a very

3291
02:16:25,550 --> 02:16:22,920
very bad health and he's passed away

3292
02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:25,560
since then the other one I had heard

3293
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:28,290
about years ago back as it was 2002 and

3294
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:30,210
I heard about him his name came up I

3295
02:16:35,299 --> 02:16:33,450
think like 1314 years before and I had

3296
02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:35,309
contact them that time because I heard a

3297
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:37,200
rumor that he had been hiding down on

3298
02:16:41,030 --> 02:16:38,639
the woods and watching a recovery

3299
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:41,040
operation and he wouldn't deny it but he

3300
02:16:44,179 --> 02:16:42,479
said he was afraid of getting involved

3301
02:16:48,410 --> 02:16:44,189
he didn't want a family involved and

3302
02:16:50,599 --> 02:16:48,420
then it was believed in 2002 when the

3303
02:16:51,770 --> 02:16:50,609
sci-fi channel was backing a big

3304
02:16:54,650 --> 02:16:51,780
investigation of the catch

3305
02:16:56,210 --> 02:16:54,660
case with Leslie Kane who was directing

3306
02:16:58,270 --> 02:16:56,220
a group called the coalition or freedom

3307
02:17:01,670 --> 02:16:58,280
of information and his name came up

3308
02:17:03,590 --> 02:17:01,680
among others who were willing to share

3309
02:17:05,660 --> 02:17:03,600
their information on the case with me

3310
02:17:08,690 --> 02:17:05,670
and I was able to interview him at that

3311
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:08,700
time and without getting into a lot of

3312
02:17:13,010 --> 02:17:11,130
detail I spent a lot of time with him he

3313
02:17:14,210 --> 02:17:13,020
was going to back out even when I went

3314
02:17:16,730 --> 02:17:14,220
out to talk to him that time it was

3315
02:17:18,590 --> 02:17:16,740
reluctant to talk about it but we spent

3316
02:17:20,780 --> 02:17:18,600
some time together and he began to

3317
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:20,790
unfold and tell me the story of the fact

3318
02:17:24,380 --> 02:17:22,080
that he was hiding down in the woods

3319
02:17:27,530 --> 02:17:24,390
that day as the military was just

3320
02:17:30,050 --> 02:17:27,540
arriving on the scene and he indicated

3321
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:30,060
that yet he saw something down there

3322
02:17:33,500 --> 02:17:31,290
which suggests that there was something

3323
02:17:36,470 --> 02:17:33,510
inside of the object we first some other

3324
02:17:39,410 --> 02:17:36,480
information out there and I I'm not

3325
02:17:42,020 --> 02:17:39,420
saying that this is extraterrestrial but

3326
02:17:43,520 --> 02:17:42,030
also I think some of these reports from

3327
02:17:46,220 --> 02:17:43,530
these people are very compelling

3328
02:17:47,780 --> 02:17:46,230
so I'd say there may be more to this and

3329
02:17:49,880 --> 02:17:47,790
any of us really know about at this

3330
02:17:51,260 --> 02:17:49,890
point is there any reason to think

3331
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:51,270
though there at least some sightings

3332
02:17:58,220 --> 02:17:54,570
especially in the 40s and 50s may have

3333
02:18:02,660 --> 02:17:58,230
been misidentified a government craft

3334
02:18:04,430 --> 02:18:02,670
possibly test aircrafts of some sort no

3335
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:04,440
doubt whatsoever that there were

3336
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:06,240
probably many many different sightings

3337
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:08,370
of experimental aircraft but of course

3338
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:10,530
our government has hundreds of miles of

3339
02:18:15,380 --> 02:18:13,200
airspace in certain areas in the country

3340
02:18:17,450 --> 02:18:15,390
where they test fly these vehicles and I

3341
02:18:19,820 --> 02:18:17,460
mean we continually get reports in

3342
02:18:22,220 --> 02:18:19,830
Pennsylvania for years of these big

3343
02:18:24,260 --> 02:18:22,230
triangular objects and cigar shaped

3344
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:24,270
object and there there are so many

3345
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:26,310
reports I mean when you look at over the

3346
02:18:32,420 --> 02:18:29,490
last 20 some 30-some years and many of

3347
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:32,430
our very populated areas very low over

3348
02:18:35,960 --> 02:18:34,050
vehicles hovering over highways

3349
02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:35,970
sometimes on the ground where we had

3350
02:18:39,620 --> 02:18:37,650
physical traces over the years it

3351
02:18:41,690 --> 02:18:39,630
doesn't make sense that it was something

3352
02:18:43,370 --> 02:18:41,700
so secretive that a government would be

3353
02:18:46,210 --> 02:18:43,380
continually flying over populated areas

3354
02:18:47,900 --> 02:18:46,220
but I have no doubt yes there were many

3355
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:47,910
misidentification some parts of the

3356
02:18:52,370 --> 02:18:50,000
country of some of these test devices

3357
02:18:53,960 --> 02:18:52,380
what about this theory I mentioned

3358
02:18:57,290 --> 02:18:53,970
earlier which we haven't pursued yet

3359
02:19:01,700 --> 02:18:57,300
about a possible co-creation of some UFO

3360
02:19:03,770 --> 02:19:01,710
events where we're participating to some

3361
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:03,780
degree in what we see because maybe it's

3362
02:19:06,730 --> 02:19:05,090
so alien

3363
02:19:09,070 --> 02:19:06,740
to our consciousness that we can't

3364
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:09,080
understand it and therefore we use our

3365
02:19:14,919 --> 02:19:11,120
culture just as maybe in the Middle Ages

3366
02:19:17,820 --> 02:19:14,929
we saw other sorts of things such as

3367
02:19:20,259 --> 02:19:17,830
leprechauns and such that we interpret a

3368
02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:20,269
phenomenon in accordance with our

3369
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:22,729
understanding of the present day and

3370
02:19:28,570 --> 02:19:24,410
today it's a science fiction culture

3371
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:28,580
what do you think these creatures

3372
02:19:32,980 --> 02:19:31,280
they're probably probably trying to

3373
02:19:34,750 --> 02:19:32,990
figure out to the best of their

3374
02:19:36,969 --> 02:19:34,760
understanding they're saying something

3375
02:19:39,490 --> 02:19:36,979
it is not supposed to exist but they're

3376
02:19:40,690 --> 02:19:39,500
trying to see if it's similar to

3377
02:19:42,969 --> 02:19:40,700
something they've read about or heard

3378
02:19:45,250 --> 02:19:42,979
about or something that may be

3379
02:19:46,900 --> 02:19:45,260
fictitious but it looks similar what

3380
02:19:49,300 --> 02:19:46,910
they're seeing so maybe in some cases

3381
02:19:50,740 --> 02:19:49,310
place are all in it and just as we're

3382
02:19:53,650 --> 02:19:50,750
talking here it brings up something I

3383
02:19:55,510 --> 02:19:53,660
found years ago many many years ago as

3384
02:19:58,240 --> 02:19:55,520
I'm beginning to study the backgrounds

3385
02:20:00,130 --> 02:19:58,250
of some people I begin to find that some

3386
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:00,140
of these people had a long history from

3387
02:20:04,090 --> 02:20:02,450
time they were young of having very type

3388
02:20:07,330 --> 02:20:04,100
of paranormal experiences they would

3389
02:20:09,490 --> 02:20:07,340
have dreams came true premonitions they

3390
02:20:12,190 --> 02:20:09,500
would have incidents of paranormal

3391
02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:12,200
phenomena in their home and I wondered

3392
02:20:18,099 --> 02:20:14,530
for years could it be that some people

3393
02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:18,109
possibly have some type of they're able

3394
02:20:23,530 --> 02:20:20,240
to perceive some phenomena that other

3395
02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:23,540
people can't that maybe they're more

3396
02:20:28,179 --> 02:20:25,850
sensitive to the phenomena that maybe in

3397
02:20:31,780 --> 02:20:28,189
some cases a phenomena it's attracted to

3398
02:20:33,570 --> 02:20:31,790
them and I remember years ago there was

3399
02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:33,580
an incident was a group of people and

3400
02:20:37,870 --> 02:20:36,290
and a couple of some of the people swung

3401
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:37,880
on people in that group we're seeing

3402
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:40,370
this large structured object hovering

3403
02:20:44,740 --> 02:20:42,530
very low above them and the other people

3404
02:20:46,530 --> 02:20:44,750
couldn't see it so could it be that only

3405
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:46,540
certain people have certain capabilities

3406
02:20:51,969 --> 02:20:48,890
that are able to perceive some of these

3407
02:20:53,980 --> 02:20:51,979
phenomena that other people can't well I

3408
02:20:56,740 --> 02:20:53,990
don't know if I want to be sensitive to

3409
02:20:59,950 --> 02:20:56,750
it or not what do you think once you

3410
02:21:01,570 --> 02:20:59,960
take on UFO abductions you know I was

3411
02:21:03,790 --> 02:21:01,580
probably one of the first in the country

3412
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:03,800
to get pretty involved in UFO abductions

3413
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:05,600
with my research group back in the 60s

3414
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:08,960
and there was a lot of reports in those

3415
02:21:12,910 --> 02:21:10,850
days in Pennsylvania in the Pittsburgh

3416
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:12,920
area and my team's worked on a lot of

3417
02:21:17,469 --> 02:21:15,050
cases the problem is you got to remember

3418
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:17,479
we were we had hundreds of hundreds of

3419
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:19,040
UFO reports come in all the

3420
02:21:25,060 --> 02:21:22,610
and we did this out of run pockets we

3421
02:21:26,740 --> 02:21:25,070
had full-time jobs you know we were very

3422
02:21:28,180 --> 02:21:26,750
limited what we could do we were doing a

3423
02:21:30,881 --> 02:21:28,190
lot more a lot of people good but we

3424
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:30,891
could only do what we could do and I

3425
02:21:34,871 --> 02:21:33,290
wanted to really study a lot of the

3426
02:21:37,810 --> 02:21:34,881
backgrounds of the people involved but I

3427
02:21:39,850 --> 02:21:37,820
can tell just from memory that some of

3428
02:21:42,490 --> 02:21:39,860
those cases were very interesting again

3429
02:21:45,701 --> 02:21:42,500
many came from very credible people and

3430
02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:45,711
over the years I mean even today I can

3431
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:48,410
think of at least one person just taught

3432
02:21:53,350 --> 02:21:50,450
my head who I've been in touch with now

3433
02:21:55,591 --> 02:21:53,360
for my gosh probably over 40 years that

3434
02:21:58,331 --> 02:21:55,601
person from the time she was little she

3435
02:22:01,001 --> 02:21:58,341
had disappeared in a large field in the

3436
02:22:03,131 --> 02:22:01,011
large area there was a major search for

3437
02:22:04,631 --> 02:22:03,141
her they searched for hours and hours

3438
02:22:06,371 --> 02:22:04,641
and they found her right on the spot

3439
02:22:07,961 --> 02:22:06,381
where they had already searched she had

3440
02:22:10,091 --> 02:22:07,971
no idea what was going on what she was

3441
02:22:12,570 --> 02:22:10,101
missing but throughout her life from the

3442
02:22:14,740 --> 02:22:12,580
time of being child she's had numerous

3443
02:22:17,171 --> 02:22:14,750
paranormal phenomena occur in her life

3444
02:22:18,400 --> 02:22:17,181
then her children and now her

3445
02:22:20,591 --> 02:22:18,410
grandchildren are having these

3446
02:22:22,030 --> 02:22:20,601
experiences as well and this is

3447
02:22:27,310 --> 02:22:22,040
something that's apparently not that

3448
02:22:30,190 --> 02:22:27,320
uncommon and I remember one case that

3449
02:22:32,201 --> 02:22:30,200
always stuck in my mind this was in the

3450
02:22:34,421 --> 02:22:32,211
Pittsburgh area I did get to interview

3451
02:22:36,190 --> 02:22:34,431
the person the witness in person but

3452
02:22:39,220 --> 02:22:36,200
some of my team was involved in it and

3453
02:22:42,631 --> 02:22:39,230
from just what I could recall this

3454
02:22:45,940 --> 02:22:42,641
person lived out in the country and

3455
02:22:48,581 --> 02:22:45,950
apparently what the report was that

3456
02:22:51,280 --> 02:22:48,591
during the night he will be taken aboard

3457
02:22:52,661 --> 02:22:51,290
a landed object and and there were a

3458
02:22:55,451 --> 02:22:52,671
number of different biological

3459
02:22:58,001 --> 02:22:55,461
experiments involved in it supposedly if

3460
02:22:59,711 --> 02:22:58,011
I believe somebody one night supposedly

3461
02:23:02,081 --> 02:22:59,721
falling him out in the woods and watch

3462
02:23:04,541 --> 02:23:02,091
him go aboard the craft but what he said

3463
02:23:06,761 --> 02:23:04,551
to me at that time years and years and

3464
02:23:09,341 --> 02:23:06,771
years before you really heard much at

3465
02:23:12,190 --> 02:23:09,351
all about the grazed a humanoid reports

3466
02:23:14,860 --> 02:23:12,200
he described it to me and he said they

3467
02:23:16,121 --> 02:23:14,870
look like Pillsbury doughboys and now he

3468
02:23:21,100 --> 02:23:16,131
always thought that that was quite

3469
02:23:23,831 --> 02:23:21,110
interesting well therefore it's not a

3470
02:23:25,240 --> 02:23:23,841
Stay Puft Marshmallow or something it's

3471
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:25,250
not the marshmallow man from

3472
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:28,010
ghostbusters

3473
02:23:32,859 --> 02:23:30,760
well you know once again I've talked to

3474
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many people who believed that they had

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missing time experience of Dutch

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experiences some of these people were

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very very credible there was no doubt

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that they were having you know a lot of

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say that they were abducted by aliens

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can't do that but something was

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listening to the parrot cat so as we

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events now somebody has an abduction

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type experience and they reported to you

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do you send them somewhere to have it

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checked out I can tell you this in more

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recent years in fact I would say

3606
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probably in the last 20-some years very

3607
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rarely do I hear these reports of

3608
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abductions anymore

3609
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and I've talked a lot of other people

3610
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tell me the same thing back in the 60s

3611
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or 70s 80s we used here quite a lot of

3612
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reports but I rarely ever hear these

3613
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type of reports at this time back when I

3614
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had my groups in those days we did have

3615
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a lot of specialists we had medical

3616
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people you know we had psychologists we

3617
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had all kind of scientists who

3618
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investigated these reports so we did as

3619
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best we could with what time we had but

3620
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we wanted to spend a lot more time

3621
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service kids we just didn't have the

3622
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capability to do it because once again

3623
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everybody was working full time many of

3624
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us had families this was all our own

3625
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pocket and you were limited which you

3626
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could do but there was a lot of reports

3627
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back then in more recent years hardly

3628
02:30:10,480 --> 02:30:08,150
ever hear of these reports and it's

3629
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unfortunate because today a lot of

3630
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people who really had some good research

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background science backgrounds are no

3632
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longer with us

3633
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and it's very few people now that are

3634
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really trained to deal with these type

3635
02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:22,460
of reports and around this area overall

3636
02:30:27,730 --> 02:30:24,800
are there any UFO abduction

3637
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investigators today that you respect in

3638
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terms of being able to do this kind of

3639
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research there's I don't know anybody

3640
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right now in this area that specialize

3641
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in abduction cases whatsoever

3642
02:30:43,660 --> 02:30:41,000
I knew a lot of the world up I knew but

3643
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Hopkins and I knew you know some days

3644
02:30:48,250 --> 02:30:47,090
I'm from Uptown Philadelphia I believe

3645
02:30:50,261 --> 02:30:48,260
he stole involved with some of these

3646
02:30:51,820 --> 02:30:50,271
things but most of the people I know

3647
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involved and unfortunately either or now

3648
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completely retired out of the field or

3649
02:30:56,180 --> 02:30:54,620
unfortunately passed away

3650
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so there's nobody

3651
02:31:00,171 --> 02:30:58,320
I know right now that's really deeply

3652
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involved in the abduction phenomena a

3653
02:31:03,831 --> 02:31:01,980
lot of the people I deal with now are

3654
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very deeply involved in the UFO

3655
02:31:08,180 --> 02:31:05,610
phenomena and doing with cryptid reports

3656
02:31:10,371 --> 02:31:08,190
of course we have Kathleen Mardon

3657
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I think she's living in Florida now she

3658
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was Betty Hills niece

3659
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so she's somebody who is trained as a

3660
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hypnotherapist so she's one example of

3661
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possibility but not obviously in your

3662
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area so someone wanted to visit that

3663
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person visit her or anyone else it

3664
02:31:31,341 --> 02:31:28,891
wouldn't be so easy would you say you

3665
02:31:32,091 --> 02:31:31,351
don't get that many abduction cases

3666
02:31:34,850 --> 02:31:32,101
anymore

3667
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hardly at all I mean very rarely people

3668
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will bring it up at any more it was very

3669
02:31:42,200 --> 02:31:40,171
common back years ago but I can tell you

3670
02:31:43,161 --> 02:31:42,210
I rarely ever even hear about these

3671
02:31:45,801 --> 02:31:43,171
cases anymore

3672
02:31:48,020 --> 02:31:45,811
now that is interesting in and of itself

3673
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and does that mean that maybe there are

3674
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other possible answers I was thinking

3675
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certainly in the 60s maybe some kind of

3676
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human experimentation might be involved

3677
02:32:00,140 --> 02:31:57,780
in some cases and that would be

3678
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government you know the MKULTRA kind of

3679
02:32:04,671 --> 02:32:02,641
thing and maybe that explains some of it

3680
02:32:07,131 --> 02:32:04,681
but of course a lot of other people have

3681
02:32:09,291 --> 02:32:07,141
had unusual encounters in fact there was

3682
02:32:11,631 --> 02:32:09,301
somebody that I had talked to a number

3683
02:32:14,390 --> 02:32:11,641
of years ago when we have our previous

3684
02:32:16,310 --> 02:32:14,400
co-host on the power cast and they told

3685
02:32:18,381 --> 02:32:16,320
me some absolutely startling and

3686
02:32:20,180 --> 02:32:18,391
credible things I think his name was

3687
02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:20,190
Doug and I won't give you his full name

3688
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his real name because obviously we don't

3689
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really want to break his privacy but he

3690
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had some really really unusual

3691
02:32:33,350 --> 02:32:30,421
encounters and that's interesting that

3692
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we wouldn't hear as many in terms of

3693
02:32:38,450 --> 02:32:35,870
abductions the question of course is are

3694
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abductions even related to the UFO

3695
02:32:43,940 --> 02:32:41,311
phenomenon or are they other events that

3696
02:32:46,700 --> 02:32:43,950
we interpret in connection with UFOs

3697
02:32:50,631 --> 02:32:46,710
because you know it's just out of our

3698
02:32:53,060 --> 02:32:50,641
experience what was happening back in

3699
02:32:54,890 --> 02:32:53,070
the 60s they seen before year about a

3700
02:32:57,350 --> 02:32:54,900
lot of the small little humanoids to

3701
02:32:59,841 --> 02:32:57,360
greys being involved what we were

3702
02:33:03,530 --> 02:32:59,851
hearing was that there were incidents

3703
02:33:07,161 --> 02:33:03,540
where local people were being taken

3704
02:33:09,490 --> 02:33:07,171
aboard objects on the ground where there

3705
02:33:11,010 --> 02:33:09,500
was large objects on the ground

3706
02:33:13,599 --> 02:33:11,020
and they are having technical

3707
02:33:15,820 --> 02:33:13,609
malfunctions propulsion problems and

3708
02:33:17,860 --> 02:33:15,830
these very human-like in most of the

3709
02:33:19,510 --> 02:33:17,870
time from what I remember these cases

3710
02:33:23,500 --> 02:33:19,520
they weren't small humanoids they were

3711
02:33:26,170 --> 02:33:23,510
more human-like figures five to six feet

3712
02:33:27,309 --> 02:33:26,180
tall some people claimed they would tell

3713
02:33:28,960 --> 02:33:27,319
how they communicate with these

3714
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:28,970
creatures and they would take him aboard

3715
02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:31,250
the craft and walk around the craft and

3716
02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:33,410
that was it that was something that was

3717
02:33:37,719 --> 02:33:35,450
pretty common I've heard a number

3718
02:33:41,080 --> 02:33:37,729
reports back in the 60s in Pennsylvania

3719
02:33:44,019 --> 02:33:41,090
in other parts of the country and then

3720
02:33:45,670 --> 02:33:44,029
it began to evolve into the lot of

3721
02:33:48,070 --> 02:33:45,680
reports those are the smaller humanoids

3722
02:33:50,650 --> 02:33:48,080
and the gray reports that's just how it

3723
02:33:52,960 --> 02:33:50,660
all began and also during the 60s here

3724
02:33:56,019 --> 02:33:52,970
in Pennsylvania there were many many

3725
02:33:59,139 --> 02:33:56,029
reports a very large structure

3726
02:34:02,110 --> 02:33:59,149
dome-shaped objects many with portholes

3727
02:34:04,420 --> 02:34:02,120
many of these reports were I mean very

3728
02:34:05,860 --> 02:34:04,430
low level where they rent one case out

3729
02:34:07,660 --> 02:34:05,870
of Pizza they're hovering near a bridge

3730
02:34:09,099 --> 02:34:07,670
and people were car pulling the cars

3731
02:34:12,790 --> 02:34:09,109
over watch this thing hovering and

3732
02:34:14,530 --> 02:34:12,800
spinning one case I had probably one of

3733
02:34:18,070 --> 02:34:14,540
the most interesting cases early case I

3734
02:34:20,740 --> 02:34:18,080
worked on was February of 68 this is out

3735
02:34:23,860 --> 02:34:20,750
here in southwestern PA out in this area

3736
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:23,870
and this involved two brothers are both

3737
02:34:28,059 --> 02:34:26,210
deceased now unfortunately I got to know

3738
02:34:30,429 --> 02:34:28,069
them both pretty well over the years the

3739
02:34:33,670 --> 02:34:30,439
younger brother at that time was a great

3740
02:34:36,190 --> 02:34:33,680
believer in UFOs his older brother was a

3741
02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:36,200
complete disbeliever they would get into

3742
02:34:40,570 --> 02:34:37,850
such arguments able to have fist fights

3743
02:34:43,929 --> 02:34:40,580
over UFOs and then the older brother

3744
02:34:46,179 --> 02:34:43,939
didn't believe went into the Navy got a

3745
02:34:49,030 --> 02:34:46,189
very high security clearance worked on

3746
02:34:51,969 --> 02:34:49,040
our most advanced aircraft on one of our

3747
02:34:54,099 --> 02:34:51,979
most advanced aircraft carriers he got

3748
02:34:55,809 --> 02:34:54,109
out of the service and had just gotten

3749
02:34:58,570 --> 02:34:55,819
married and his wife went on a little

3750
02:35:00,190 --> 02:34:58,580
farm house out in the country and one

3751
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:00,200
February afternoon they have to look out

3752
02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:02,810
the windows close to snow and about 50

3753
02:35:08,290 --> 02:35:04,880
feet off the ground about 50 feet away

3754
02:35:10,510 --> 02:35:08,300
is this huge battleship gray solid

3755
02:35:13,719 --> 02:35:10,520
metallic dome shaped object with portals

3756
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:13,729
in it and like a some kind of a platform

3757
02:35:18,910 --> 02:35:16,640
like a walking platform on it covering

3758
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:18,920
there and he calls his wife and she

3759
02:35:22,421 --> 02:35:20,810
stands there and they look in this thing

3760
02:35:24,310 --> 02:35:22,431
and they step outside and

3761
02:35:26,770 --> 02:35:24,320
these two little humanoid creatures come

3762
02:35:28,661 --> 02:35:26,780
on the little pathway there on the

3763
02:35:31,001 --> 02:35:28,671
vehicle and at one point one of them

3764
02:35:32,621 --> 02:35:31,011
looks directly at him and his wife he

3765
02:35:34,421 --> 02:35:32,631
gets on the front of cause his brother

3766
02:35:36,430 --> 02:35:34,431
who believed in this stuff and he and

3767
02:35:38,741 --> 02:35:36,440
his wife get out there it was about 20

3768
02:35:40,810 --> 02:35:38,751
minutes away and it's still there but it

3769
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:40,820
started to snow pretty hard now it's

3770
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:42,650
about a hundred feet up hovering above

3771
02:35:47,350 --> 02:35:45,200
them and they want to sing suddenly

3772
02:35:49,091 --> 02:35:47,360
shoots off into the sky in a matter of

3773
02:35:51,281 --> 02:35:49,101
seconds looks like a bright star going

3774
02:35:53,171 --> 02:35:51,291
across the heavens they called the local

3775
02:35:54,761 --> 02:35:53,181
airport and they were told you're one of

3776
02:35:57,011 --> 02:35:54,771
many people calling in reporting seeing

3777
02:35:59,531 --> 02:35:57,021
the same thing once again that brother

3778
02:36:02,140 --> 02:35:59,541
didn't believe became a believer and as

3779
02:36:03,581 --> 02:36:02,150
I said for many people you have to cede

3780
02:36:06,491 --> 02:36:03,591
yourself to really realize these

3781
02:36:09,190 --> 02:36:06,501
phenomenon going so a lot of reports

3782
02:36:11,261 --> 02:36:09,200
back in the 60s of these very large

3783
02:36:14,321 --> 02:36:11,271
structured craft all over Pennsylvania

3784
02:36:17,201 --> 02:36:14,331
the Capitol Harrisburg Pennsylvania had

3785
02:36:19,901 --> 02:36:17,211
a massive UFO away for weeks that was

3786
02:36:22,871 --> 02:36:19,911
making the local national news many many

3787
02:36:24,940 --> 02:36:22,881
sightings of landings and weird weird

3788
02:36:26,741 --> 02:36:24,950
UFO reports that were going on down

3789
02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:26,751
there it was going on all over the state

3790
02:36:31,151 --> 02:36:29,570
for many years in the 60s so it was a

3791
02:36:33,730 --> 02:36:31,161
lot of interesting things going on back

3792
02:36:38,651 --> 02:36:33,740
in those days so what do you got coming

3793
02:36:41,111 --> 02:36:38,661
up for 2018 my website info I'm very

3794
02:36:43,331 --> 02:36:41,121
busy I'm always getting new reports in

3795
02:36:45,011 --> 02:36:43,341
even in the last week in recent weeks

3796
02:36:47,051 --> 02:36:45,021
even with the terrible weather around

3797
02:36:49,361 --> 02:36:47,061
here I'm getting reports of mystery

3798
02:36:51,611 --> 02:36:49,371
booms that are going on we're getting

3799
02:36:53,261 --> 02:36:51,621
Thunderbird reports a Bigfoot sighting

3800
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:53,271
UFO reports

3801
02:36:57,310 --> 02:36:55,280
few of them I have on my website now

3802
02:37:00,640 --> 02:36:57,320
just a mention of them at Stan Gordon

3803
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:00,650
got info people want to look and I have

3804
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3805
02:37:05,831 --> 02:37:03,891
actually to the end of the year I have

3806
02:37:08,470 --> 02:37:05,841
more I know being booked so if you're

3807
02:37:10,600 --> 02:37:08,480
around Pennsylvania West Virginia you

3808
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3809
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3822
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3841
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